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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">FFS, are we seriously going to have all
these discussions all over again? We covered universities, and
services, and who would be eligible and why, way back when the
DRIPS were first requested. Some Universities clearly think they
provide services that need a DRIP, some clearly don't. There's no
particular reason why a University would be exempt, if they
provide eligible services.<br>
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The bigger question is - why in all the seven hells does anyone
think they have the right, the knowledge, and the legal insight to
question whether anyone deserves or doesn't deserve anything, when
ultimately it comes down to an internal legal opinion (*not*
technical opinion) for every organisation as to what an
organisation has to do to cover themselves from liability.<br>
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Seriously list - unless you are actually a lawyer, qualified to
give opinion, and expert on every word in the relevent
legislation, AND you know all about the internals of each
orghanisation including their internal legal advice on which they
relied to prepare and submit a DRIP - Shut the frigging hell up
and lets talk something operational.<br>
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On 6/09/2016 3:02 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes. I've been talking to one Uni that didn't
apply. They are confused why the others applied as well.
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<div>I think serious questions need to be asked as to why the
universities think they are entitled or even eligible to apply
- and who approved them.</div>
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<div>Question. If the result of funding is public, why aren't
the applications that funding? Everyone else has to publicly
disclose what they do in relation to most government funding,
so why not this?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Chad
Kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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9/6/2016 12:00 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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I was just having a little look at some of the data.<br>
50% of the total pool went to three recipients.<br>
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The bottom 163 (>90%) recipients between them received
20% of the pool.<br>
10% of the pool was divided between 137 (76%) of
recipients.<br>
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Without mentioning names, I raised an eyebrow to see that
there were<br>
exactly two, identical value grants ($265,600 each) to two
entities with<br>
remarkably similar names.<br>
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This is not unusual, many businesses run several companies
Micron21 as an example got around $50000 in grant funding
split over two separate companies.<br>
The one I don't understand at all is all the Universities
that got funding, mostly because as I understood the
legislation the emails that were allocated to staff and
students would all be classed as the inner circle, or
whatever it was called.<br>
In other words it would be classed as internal usage,
universities are not selling internet access to students.<br>
The only one I could understand getting funding as an ISP in
the education space would be the actual ISPs that provide
the carrier networks for the Universities such as Aarnet
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Manager<br>
CPK Web Services<br>
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phone 03 9013 4853<br>
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