<div dir="ltr">Whilst I think there should have been some safeguards in place in terms of verifying the dollar value claimed (ie. the same way you would do with a commercial loan and submit tax invoices dated within 3 months of the claim), what I find extraordinary but true-to-form for this list is the amount of jibber jabber regarding what <i>others</i> have done.<div><br></div><div>Nobody here knows the true cost of implementing this half-baked policy for many of these recipients, and I think speculating and demanding answers from people <i>just because they are on list</i> is absurd and borderline offensive.</div><div><br></div><div>This wasn't a research grant so please stop comparing it to one. The government put up a bucket of cash and said if you want it, come get it, but these are the rules. The rules and the people who made them are to blame, not the people who played by them and won.</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div>Cheyne Jonstone | VentraIP Australia<br>
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<br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yes. I've been talking to one Uni that didn't apply. They are confused why the others applied as well.<div><br></div><div>I think serious questions need to be asked as to why the universities think they are entitled or even eligible to apply - and who approved them.</div><div><br></div><div>Question. If the result of funding is public, why aren't the applications that funding? Everyone else has to publicly disclose what they do in relation to most government funding, so why not this?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">skeeve@<wbr>eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a href="http://eintellegonetworks.com/" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a></div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell <a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383" value="+61414753383" target="_blank">+61 (0)414 753 383</a> ; S<a>kype: skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <wbr>Expert360: <a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" target="_blank">Profile</a> ; Keybase: <a href="https://keybase.io/skeeve" target="_blank">https://keybase.io/<wbr>skeeve</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Chad Kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au" target="_blank">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 9/6/2016 12:00 PM, <a href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.ne<wbr>t</a> wrote:<br>
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I was just having a little look at some of the data.<br>
50% of the total pool went to three recipients.<br>
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The bottom 163 (>90%) recipients between them received 20% of the pool.<br>
10% of the pool was divided between 137 (76%) of recipients.<br>
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Without mentioning names, I raised an eyebrow to see that there were<br>
exactly two, identical value grants ($265,600 each) to two entities with<br>
remarkably similar names.<br>
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This is not unusual, many businesses run several companies Micron21 as an example got around $50000 in grant funding split over two separate companies.<br>
The one I don't understand at all is all the Universities that got funding, mostly because as I understood the legislation the emails that were allocated to staff and students would all be classed as the inner circle, or whatever it was called.<br>
In other words it would be classed as internal usage, universities are not selling internet access to students.<br>
The only one I could understand getting funding as an ISP in the education space would be the actual ISPs that provide the carrier networks for the Universities such as Aarnet being the main one.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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