<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I don't think service providers would or should be accepting the additional responsibilities of DR lightly. There are pecuniary penalties for service providers who fail to protect the information they are now compelled to collect. <br><br>Obviously if the government is to hold service providers liable for pecuniary penalties, it's entirely appropriate that businesses require government to cover their full expenses for meeting the requirements of the act. I think what this list demonstrates, is that many of the smaller operators may in fact discover they have underestimated the cost of meeting their obligations.<br><br></div>Kind regards<br><br></div>Paul Wilkins<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 September 2016 at 21:11, Stuart Low <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stuart.low@me.com" target="_blank">stuart.low@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Is S3 storage even an option? I haven’t really been following along here so I’m talking completely out of school but isn’t there privacy issues with storing in the cloud? If they add encryption to the mix then record size blows out 10-fold.<br>
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Could the solutions deployed be optimised, I bet they could and I also bet a lot of the recipients will be supplying the headline price and decreasing the costs as much as possible. I also dare say that a lot of the recipients are evaluating it from a “professional services” delivery standpoint purely because giving the government what they want is distracting them from far more enterprising activities.<br>
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I wonder if the government would have been better building a black box solution to be deployed in common datacentres and expect radius or ftp offload or something. That way the government could centralise as required, manage it’s own vendors, have a consistent format it could change, the list goes on… Of course that sounds distinctly like a large communist country with a red flag…<br>
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Stu<br>
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On 5/09/2016, 19:44, "AusNOG on behalf of Tim Raphael" <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.<wbr>net</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:raphael.timothy@gmail.com">raphael.timothy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I'd be very interested to see the numbers on each ISPs estimated cost of long-term storage. I have a gut feeling a lot of quoted numbers will be far above even SSD speed S3 pricing! ;-)<br>
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And Brendan, I totally agree. It's outrageous the apparent sheer negligence with which some of these numbers have been awarded.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Tim Raphael<br>
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>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 5:24 PM, Mark Smith <<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com">markzzzsmith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 5 September 2016 at 19:18, Stuart Low <<a href="mailto:stuart.low@me.com">stuart.low@me.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I wonder if the big winners are purely because of size or their dominance in<br>
>> the mobile space. I would expect the data storage requirements of 3/4G<br>
>> sessions would be exponentially higher than fixed line.<br>
><br>
> "A disadvantage of logging mappings is that CGNs under heavy usage may<br>
> produce large amounts of logs, which may require large storage<br>
> volume."<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6888#section-4" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>rfc6888#section-4</a><br>
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>> Stu<br>
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>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 6:31 PM, "<a href="mailto:paul%2Bausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.<wbr>com.au</a>"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:paul%2Bausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.<wbr>com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> +1<br>
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>> From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.<wbr>ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Brent<br>
>> Paddon<br>
>> Sent: Monday, 5 September 2016 6:24 PM<br>
>> To: Nick Evendor<br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Aus Industry Congratulations Email<br>
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>> <a href="https://www.ag.gov.au/NationalSecurity/DataRetention/Documents/DRIGP-recipients.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ag.gov.au/<wbr>NationalSecurity/<wbr>DataRetention/Documents/DRIGP-<wbr>recipients.pdf</a><br>
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>> Some of the people on that list should be ashamed of themselves for the $$<br>
>> amounts they applied for/received IMHO.<br>
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>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Nick Evendor <<a href="mailto:nickevendor@outlook.com">nickevendor@outlook.com</a>><br>
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>> Anyone else receive a email this afternoon from Data Retention?<br>
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>> I cannot believe they Government might actually follow through with<br>
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