<p dir="ltr">Where you were right is that the whole thing was a complete waste of time. It was bad enough then. But now it is also a complete waste of our money too.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I don't think we should be getting over it at all.</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 Sep 2016 8:26 PM, "Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral" <<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>Firstly I have no interest in this at all as I'm not a requestor for funds.</div>
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<div>This message is not directed at anyone in particular and I have my asbestos coated flame suit on and don't give a shit.</div>
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<div>I'd suggest that everyone needs to get over it and mind their own business.</div>
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<div>Focus on your own business, not taking pot shots at others.</div>
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<div>Petty bullshit like this is a complete waste of time. Get over it.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family:tahoma,arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><b>From</b>: "Nick Evendor" <<a href="mailto:nickevendor@outlook.com" target="_blank">nickevendor@outlook.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Monday, September 5, 2016 8:15 PM<br>
<b>To</b>: "Tim Raphael" <<a href="mailto:raphael.timothy@gmail.com" target="_blank">raphael.timothy@gmail.com</a>>, "AusNOG Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Aus Industry Congratulations Email</span>
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<p>Who wants to name and shame the greedy people first ?</p>
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<p>Nick</p>
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<div><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt">I'd be very interested to see the numbers on each ISPs estimated cost of long-term storage. I have a gut feeling a lot of quoted numbers will be far above even SSD speed S3 pricing! ;-)<br>
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And Brendan, I totally agree. It's outrageous the apparent sheer negligence with which some of these numbers have been awarded.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Tim Raphael<br>
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>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 5:24 PM, Mark Smith <<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 5 September 2016 at 19:18, Stuart Low <<a href="mailto:stuart.low@me.com" target="_blank">stuart.low@me.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I wonder if the big winners are purely because of size or their dominance in<br>
>> the mobile space. I would expect the data storage requirements of 3/4G<br>
>> sessions would be exponentially higher than fixed line.<br>
><br>
> "A disadvantage of logging mappings is that CGNs under heavy usage may<br>
> produce large amounts of logs, which may require large storage<br>
> volume."<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6888#section-4" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>rfc6888#section-4</a><br>
><br>
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>> Stu<br>
>><br>
>> On 5 Sep 2016, at 6:31 PM, "<a href="mailto:paul%2Bausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.<wbr>com.au</a>"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:paul%2Bausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au" target="_blank">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.<wbr>com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.<wbr>ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Brent<br>
>> Paddon<br>
>> Sent: Monday, 5 September 2016 6:24 PM<br>
>> To: Nick Evendor<br>
>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Aus Industry Congratulations Email<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.ag.gov.au/NationalSecurity/DataRetention/Documents/DRIGP-recipients.pdf" target="_blank"> https://www.ag.gov.au/<wbr>NationalSecurity/<wbr>DataRetention/Documents/DRIGP-<wbr>recipients.pdf</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Some of the people on that list should be ashamed of themselves for the $$<br>
>> amounts they applied for/received IMHO.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Nick Evendor <<a href="mailto:nickevendor@outlook.com" target="_blank">nickevendor@outlook.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone else receive a email this afternoon from Data Retention?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I cannot believe they Government might actually follow through with<br>
>> something for once.<br>
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>><br>
>><br>
>> Nick<br>
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