<div dir="ltr">So if you send a form back with your name on it, but nothing else filled out, how do they prove to a court that you did that [and should be fined], given that they're not allowed to disclose any of your census info to the courts? :<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/casa1905241/s19a.html">http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/casa1905241/s19a.html</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:14 PM, John Lindsay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>The Act doesn't allow for fines until you have refused to submit a completed form.</div><div><br></div><div>The question is will the system be running by then or will they have to send everyone a paper form or will they just give up?<br><br>As every day passes the value of the data plummets. <br><br>jsl<div>mb <a href="tel:%2B61%20403577711" value="+61403577711" target="_blank">+61 403577711</a></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 11 Aug 2016, at 12:23 PM, Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 August 2016 at 12:49, James Troy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.troy@asta.com.au" target="_blank">james.troy@asta.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hmm perhaps there is a bigger picture here that were all missing, maybe they knew it wasn’t going to work but instead of spending/begging/pleading for more money they decided instead to only allow 2/10M census to be completed leaving 8M people who can be fined @ $185/day.</span> </p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Even 1 day of fines would be $1.5B, that’d pay for a nice system.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think that's getting a bit tinfoil hat.  There's no way anyone will be paying fines when the system was unable to accept submissions.</div></div></div></div>
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