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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I know Laurie from Internet Aus was meant to be talking up in Canberra about it, and John Stanton has been contacting the AGD on an almost daily basis…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>However… the silence… is.. deafening…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>L<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A'><img width=397 height=35 style='width:4.1354in;height:.3645in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D1F2D7.1D6F0300" alt=luke2k15-2></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Luke Fong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Operations Manager<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Lateral Plains Pty Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>PO Box 549<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ballarat ,Vic 3353<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#44546A;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel : 03 5317 7123<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew Kitchen<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 9 August 2016 11:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rod <rod@rb.net.au>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Data retention law - Anyone tested its validity with in-house counsel or legal associates<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Well that’s very interesting isn’t it.........<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Be very interesting if we can tie this in any way back to the UN treaties which Australia has signed in some way shape or form.....<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Bet Brandis will want this nipped in the butt very quickly..... <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>On a side note as anyone who put a funding claim into the Australian Government had a answer back on what funding there are likely to get....... So much for the April timetable they promised LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=710 style='width:532.45pt;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:58.5pt'><td width=214 style='width:160.35pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:58.5pt'><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><img width=213 height=54 style='width:2.2187in;height:.5625in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image007.png@01D1F2D7.1D73E500" alt="[image]"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=20 valign=top style='width:15.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:58.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=496 valign=top style='width:372.1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:58.5pt'><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><b><span style='text-transform:uppercase'>Andrew Kitchen</span></b><span style='text-transform:uppercase'> | Business DevelopmentStrategist<br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;text-transform:uppercase'>PO Box 3279, The Pines, Victoria, 3109<br><b>T </b>1300 789 299 <b>D </b>03 9909 3102 <strong>M</strong> 0449 561 461 <b>F </b>03 8611 7946<br><a href="mailto:a.kitchen@xi.com.au">a.kitchen@xi.com.au</a> | </span><span style='text-transform:uppercase'><a href="http://www.xi.com.au"><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>www.xi.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><img border=0 width=87 height=87 style='width:.9062in;height:.9062in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image003.png@01D1F2D7.1D6F0300"> <img border=0 width=117 height=87 style='width:1.2187in;height:.9062in' id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image008.png@01D1F2D7.1D73E500"> <img border=0 width=132 height=83 style='width:1.375in;height:.8645in' id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image005.jpg@01D1F2D7.1D6F0300"><img border=0 width=160 height=64 style='width:1.6666in;height:.6666in' id="_x0000_i1029" src="cid:image006.jpg@01D1F2D7.1D6F0300"></span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This email message and any attachments are the property of X Integration. 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Consider the environment before printing this email.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Rod <<a href="mailto:rod@rb.net.au">rod@rb.net.au</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 9 August 2016 at 10:54 PM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[AusNOG] Data retention law - Anyone tested its validity with in-house counsel or legal associates<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Hi guys,</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Wondering if anyone actually has obtained legal advice on the validity of the Data retention law and is willing to share?</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Found this link tonight but unclear on its veracity:</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>8 April 2014: The [European] Court of Justice declares the Data Retention Directive to be invalid</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><a href="http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-04/cp140054en.pdf">http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2014-04/cp140054en.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Under our treaty obligations I’m uncertain if we need to ‘harmonise’ our laws with the Europeans on Human rights.</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Rod</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p>Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.<br><a href="http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg">http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><br><a href="https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1P0K1KFHNs/5S6JL81Y7stXA1ZJ89Hcdw/0.012">Report this message as spam</a> <br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>