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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All good things take time ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>When I started working with routerOS in 2004, it was around version 2.9 and so 4 releases in 12 years is a new major release each 3. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Throughout that time, each major release, v3, v4, v5, v6 was ‘on the drawing board’ almost as soon as the previous was released to production, and so features coming in v7 has been talked about since v6 was released back in middle 2013. So I would say that it’s normal for such a long time coming.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>(not to mention that the first few releases are likely to bring plenty of unexpected passengers along with them ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And since there are so many important features on the board, that just makes it SEEM even longer! :-D<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers!<br><br>Mike.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>(duxtel.com – MikroTik distributor)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Gavrilita<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 5 August 2016 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au><br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cost effective 10G full feed BGP router for IPv4 & IPv6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>RouterOS v7, in my eyes, is a unicorn for like half a year now… Jokes aside, this is what happens when you’re making more than one change at a time in a system, as they’re migrating to a new architecture, a new kernel, new daemons, rewriting much of the code base. It’s a move they must take, otherwise it’s a 72-core beast which cannot handle the throughput scale. It’s like having the passengers on a plane with no engines to do the pedalling and spin-up the props in a futile attempt to take off ;) <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='background:white;border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'>John Gavrilita<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#000001'> | 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id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image005.png@01D1EF14.B72EFF70" alt="cid:image005.png@01D1EF14.B72EFF70"></span><span style='font-size:1.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 5 Aug 2016, at 11:13 AM, Alex Samad <<a href="mailto:alex@samad.com.au">alex@samad.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 5 August 2016 at 10:19, John Gavrilita <<a href="mailto:jgavrilita@thesummitgroup.com.au" target="_blank">jgavrilita@thesummitgroup.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>If you’re ok with single-threaded BGP process on the RouterOS (I’m not), then 2xCCR1072, in 1U rack space, back to back, and two or three bonded 10G ethernets between them would perhaps satisfy your requirements?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>One thing I have found with the smaller 1036 cousin is that it will only route single tcp streams at 1Gb/s if you want to route faster than that, then the mikrotek are not the solution,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It can handle multiple 1Gb/s tcp streams, I have consistanly gotten up to 9.8Gb/s ..<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>They advise from mikrotek is V7 will fix the issue. something about pegging a tcp stream to a single cpu and that being limited to 1G..<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> 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