<div dir="ltr">Do we know who was doing it?<div><br></div><div>I don't think we need specifics (although they are always a good read), but there's a company that I think most of us would like to avoid doing any of this kind of work.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a href="http://eintellegonetworks.com/" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a></div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; S<a>kype: skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; Expert360: <a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" target="_blank">Profile</a> ; Keybase: <a href="https://keybase.io/skeeve" target="_blank">https://keybase.io/skeeve</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Bevan Slattery <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>**<span style="font-weight:bold">NOT FOR REPUBLISHING**</span></div><div>Hi Matt,</div><div><br></div><div>Bore hits are amongst the worst possible. Because unlike a “backhoe fade” the backhoe driver lifts the bucket and notices some blue cable and (usually) stops. A person that “bores” often hits and keeps boring wrapping the cable around the borer and keeps it going. Bore gets tight, so they go harder. Sometimes if the operator keeps going and going then this can pulls the tubes of fibre so much that it “snaps” further and further down the cable path. It can sometimes pull additional cable from the maintenance loops in manholes further down the street. These maintenance loops are more designed as slack so a new pit and joint can be dropped where the incident occurred. Loops can also help protect the joint at either end from getting slammed into the pit wall causing more damage and outages. On this occasion I understand a kink formed in one of these loop as it was being forcefully fed into the duct which meant those fibres were also damaged. This leads to cable replacement from the original joint all the way through. Due to the Motor Way (and not many buildings along that route) the distance between joints/loops was a bit longer than normal. So yeah – it took quite a long time to repair.</div><div><br></div><div>Quite remarkably there was a scheduled outage in three weeks to relocate the duct bank. Duct bank relocations are quite rare so we will have to look at the impact of same.</div><div><br></div><div>As for what happens? Well the operator will want to have great insurance. Usually no criminal action is taken due to lack of intent (usually negligence/stupidity). In Singapore if this occurred you will almost certainly go to jail and face multi-million dollar fines.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>[b]</div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Matt Perkins <<a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" target="_blank">matt@spectrum.com.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Saturday, 16 July 2016 1:44 pm<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AusNOG] Fibre Cut NEXTDC S1 Yesterday?<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="auto"><div>We lost superloop strands to IC2 as well. The guys were very prompt with a work around for that much damage. I think they said it will require a 3km fiber pull to fully resolve. <br><br><div><br></div><div>-- </div><div>/* Matt Perkins</div><div> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. 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<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><br></div><div><div><span>"When Borer meets Fibre", the sequel to "When Harry Met Sally"</span></div><div><br></div><div><image1.jpeg><br><br><div>[b]</div></div><div><br>
On 16 Jul 2016, at 10:53 AM, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br></div><div>I'm informed that there was a Fibre cut at NEXTDC S1 yesterday at 1pm</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Crews from Pipe/TPG, Superloop, Vocus. Telstra were onsite. Must have been a serious one.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Anyone affected?<br clear="all"></span><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br>
...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ;
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