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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Have a look at Mellanox Technologies Ltd… They are doing 100gbit switches for almost the same price as 10gibt !!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Hohnke<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 July 2016 10:35 AM<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] 10GbE Switching Options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">For switching, check out Agema. Their 7648 is literally the same switch as the s4048-ON, just with a different badge on the front, for around half the price. Downside
is they have no local distributor, so it all comes from the US, however they're cheap enough that you can keep a few on hand as cold spares.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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ridiculously cheap. We've been using them for ages, and never had one fail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM David Hughes <<a href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au" target="_blank">david@hughes.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If SFP cost is an issue, are the distances involved too great for 10GBASE-T.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:12 AM, Alex Huntington <<a href="mailto:Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au" target="_blank">Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thought I’d throw out a few questions and a request for some feedback around some datacenter switching we are looking at. Currently each server has 6 10GbE NICs of which two
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The current requirement is to replace our 1000BaseT switching with 10GbE but the cost of SFP+ modules is an issue and currently twinax has been rules out due do cable management
issues (don’t ask :/).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If we could get some decent or support 3<sup>rd</sup> party SFP+ modules for a good price it would make the Cisco/Brocade options much more attractive but never used the Startech
or Netgear SFPs before & I’d like to avoid the vendor finger pointing games. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are looking at the following<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dell S4048-ON</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cheap $60 SFP+<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Different CLI in FTOS, another thing to learn/manage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Brocade VDX 6490</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">SFP+ price $300+<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">SFP+ $1500+<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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