<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">For switching, check out Agema. Their 7648 is literally the same switch as the s4048-ON, just with a different badge on the front, for around half the price. Downside is they have no local distributor, so it all comes from the US, however they're cheap enough that you can keep a few on hand as cold spares.</span><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">They have their own switching OS, or you can get whatever whitebox OS that supports it. </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Also, if you're after cheap SFP+'s, check out ATOP / Fiber2c. They do 10G LR 10k SFP+'s for around 80 bucks each, and their 1g SFP's are ridiculously cheap. We've been using them for ages, and never had one fail.</div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I can provide contacts for both if you're interested. </div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Ben</div><br class="inbox-inbox-Apple-interchange-newline">
<div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:23 AM David Hughes <<a href="mailto:david@hughes.com.au" target="_blank">david@hughes.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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If SFP cost is an issue, are the distances involved too great for 10GBASE-T.
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<div>On 1 Jul 2016, at 10:12 AM, Alex Huntington <<a href="mailto:Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au" target="_blank">Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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Hi Guys!<u></u><u></u></div>
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Thought I’d throw out a few questions and a request for some feedback around some datacenter switching we are looking at. Currently each server has 6 10GbE NICs of which two are dedicated iSCSI that will run through this fabric. <u></u><u></u></div>
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The current requirement is to replace our 1000BaseT switching with 10GbE but the cost of SFP+ modules is an issue and currently twinax has been rules out due do cable management issues (don’t ask :/).<u></u><u></u></div>
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It would be nice to also standardise for our core also so routing is a “nice to have” but not a requirement.<u></u><u></u></div>
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If we could get some decent or support 3<sup>rd</sup><span> </span>party SFP+ modules for a good price it would make the Cisco/Brocade options much more attractive but never used the Startech or Netgear SFPs before & I’d
like to avoid the vendor finger pointing games.<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div>
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We are looking at the following<u></u><u></u></div>
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<b>Dell S4048-ON<u></u><u></u></b></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Cheap $60 SFP+<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Cheapest switch
cost by 20-30%<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>All in one (no
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Different CLI
in FTOS, another thing to learn/manage<u></u><u></u></div>
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<b>Brocade VDX 6490<u></u><u></u></b></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>ISCLI<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Vendor reputation<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>SFP+ price $300+<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Cost of additional
port licences e.g. 24-48 port on demand<u></u><u></u></div>
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<b>Cisco Nexus 3000/9000<u></u><u></u></b></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Community support
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Vendor reputation<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>Standardise vendor
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>SFP+ $1500+<u></u><u></u></div>
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<span>-<span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:'Times New Roman'"> <span> </span></span></span>IP Lite licence
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I’d love to hear your thoughts or experience, as I’m sure I’ve missed a few things!<u></u><u></u></div>
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Cheeeeeers,<u></u><u></u></div>
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