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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks heaps for your off-list replies!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">General consensus is 3rd party SFPs are the way to go, lots of people reporting using then in Cisco and Brocade switches without issue. Vendors SFPs at $1,500 as someone so eloquently put it you are simply paying
for someone’s beach house. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">No feedback on the Dell Force10 platform, aside from that aren’t in the same league as the Brocade/Cisco which I tend to agree with however the spec sheets are very similar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Recommended SFPs<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">AFL +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Curvature +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">SmartOptics +2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">FS.com +3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">FlexOptics +3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Fibrestore.com +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Recommended Switches<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Brocade VDX +3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Cisco +2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Huawei +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Melanox +1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Dell +0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Daniel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Brett<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Sam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Nishal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Meat Bag<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Robert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Anthony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Patrick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Jorge<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">James<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sorry if I missed anyone, and again thanks AusNog. Have a great weekend!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-AU"> Alex Huntington
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 July 2016 10:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'ausnog@lists.ausnog.net' <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> 10GbE Switching Options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Guys!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thought I’d throw out a few questions and a request for some feedback around some datacenter switching we are looking at. Currently each server has 6 10GbE NICs of which two are dedicated iSCSI that will run through this fabric. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The current requirement is to replace our 1000BaseT switching with 10GbE but the cost of SFP+ modules is an issue and currently twinax has been rules out due do cable management issues (don’t ask :/).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It would be nice to also standardise for our core also so routing is a “nice to have” but not a requirement.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If we could get some decent or support 3<sup>rd</sup> party SFP+ modules for a good price it would make the Cisco/Brocade options much more attractive but never used the Startech or Netgear SFPs before & I’d like to avoid the vendor finger
pointing games. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are looking at the following<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Dell S4048-ON<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pros:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Cheap $60 SFP+<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Cheapest switch cost by 20-30%<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>All in one (no port or IP/routing licences required)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cons:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Different CLI in FTOS, another thing to learn/manage<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Brocade VDX 6490<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pros: <o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>ISCLI<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Vendor reputation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cons<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>SFP+ price $300+<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Cost of additional port licences e.g. 24-48 port on demand<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cisco Nexus 3000/9000<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pros:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Community support & KB/documentation<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Vendor reputation<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>Standardise vendor with all other network gear<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cons:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>SFP+ $1500+<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>IP Lite licence costs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’d love to hear your thoughts or experience, as I’m sure I’ve missed a few things!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheeeeeers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alex<o:p></o:p></p>
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