<div dir="ltr">Pretty sure I <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_98dHAgKCU">recommended</a> the Dell S4K-ON or S6K-ON series... or the Z9100-ON - running Cumulus.<div><br></div><div>Mellanox is also awesome, their <a href="http://www.mellanox.com/page/products_dyn?product_family=215&mtag=sn2100">SN2100</a> is hot and supports Cumulus, but not fully yet... will be in a few months.</div><div><br></div><div>HP has the Altoline... looks nice, but HP is a pain to deal with at the moment. We chose Dell because they are easy and not one of the edge fringe brands with no supply/logistics in .au</div><div><br></div><div>Basically, unless needed, I would avoid Cisco, Juniper, Arista, Brocade hardware - unless you just want to waste money for the fun of it.</div><div><br></div><div>If you like Juniper, get a Dell ON series and run the new disaggregated Junos. Cisco will be an option on ONIE switches soon.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, don't misunderstand me. I LOVE Cisco and Juniper... just not their hardware these days at the prices they charge.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a href="http://eintellegonetworks.com/" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a></div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; S<a>kype: skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; Expert360: <a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" target="_blank">Profile</a> ; Keybase: <a href="https://keybase.io/skeeve" target="_blank">https://keybase.io/skeeve</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Alex Huntington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au" target="_blank">Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Hi Everyone,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks heaps for your off-list replies!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">General consensus is 3rd party SFPs are the way to go, lots of people reporting using then in Cisco and Brocade switches without issue. Vendors SFPs at $1,500 as someone so eloquently put it you are simply paying
for someone’s beach house. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">No feedback on the Dell Force10 platform, aside from that aren’t in the same league as the Brocade/Cisco which I tend to agree with however the spec sheets are very similar.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1f497d">Recommended SFPs<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">AFL +1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Curvature +1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">SmartOptics +2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">FS.com +3<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">FlexOptics +3<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Fibrestore.com +1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1f497d">Recommended Switches<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Brocade VDX +3<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Cisco +2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Huawei +1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Melanox +1<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Dell +0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Daniel<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Brett<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Chris<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Sam<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Nishal<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Meat Bag<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Robert<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Anthony<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Patrick<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">Jorge<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d"><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span style="color:#1f497d">James<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Sorry if I missed anyone, and again thanks AusNog. Have a great weekend!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Alex<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Alex Huntington
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 1 July 2016 10:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>' <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> 10GbE Switching Options<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Guys!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thought I’d throw out a few questions and a request for some feedback around some datacenter switching we are looking at. Currently each server has 6 10GbE NICs of which two are dedicated iSCSI that will run through this fabric. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The current requirement is to replace our 1000BaseT switching with 10GbE but the cost of SFP+ modules is an issue and currently twinax has been rules out due do cable management issues (don’t ask :/).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It would be nice to also standardise for our core also so routing is a “nice to have” but not a requirement.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If we could get some decent or support 3<sup>rd</sup> party SFP+ modules for a good price it would make the Cisco/Brocade options much more attractive but never used the Startech or Netgear SFPs before & I’d like to avoid the vendor finger
pointing games. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are looking at the following<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Dell S4048-ON<u></u><u></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pros:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>Cheap $60 SFP+<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Cheapest switch cost by 20-30%<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>All in one (no port or IP/routing licences required)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cons:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Different CLI in FTOS, another thing to learn/manage<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Brocade VDX 6490<u></u><u></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pros: <u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>ISCLI<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>Vendor reputation<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cons<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>SFP+ price $300+<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Cost of additional port licences e.g. 24-48 port on demand<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Cisco Nexus 3000/9000<u></u><u></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Pros:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Community support & KB/documentation<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Vendor reputation<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Standardise vendor with all other network gear<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cons:<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span></span><u></u>SFP+ $1500+<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u><span>-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>IP Lite licence costs<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’d love to hear your thoughts or experience, as I’m sure I’ve missed a few things!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cheeeeeers,<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Alex<u></u><u></u></p>
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