<div dir="ltr">Look backwards... they've been saying things for how long now?<div><br></div><div>They can say all they like, but in the end, there is a risk - maybe not a big one, because equipment will happily work as it does now.</div><div><br></div><div>But that doesn't mean future releases of EOS might lose some features. If they have infringed (and I could care less if they have), then they won't be able to just do the same thing in another way... that what IP protects. So likely it will be a different feature people will have to move to - which will mean changes.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally I think in the end Arista will disappear, be bought by someone - maybe Cisco, gutted, etc... that is the best play for them.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a href="http://eintellegonetworks.com/" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a></div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; S<a>kype: skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; Expert360: <a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" target="_blank">Profile</a> ; Keybase: <a href="https://keybase.io/skeeve" target="_blank">https://keybase.io/skeeve</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Alex Samad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alex@samad.com.au" target="_blank">alex@samad.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Doesn't she say they have mitigated the issues, so that they are no<br>
longer infringing ?<br>
<br>
I'm not a lawyer ..<br>
<br>
A<br>
<br>
On 1 July 2016 at 12:03, Skeeve Stevens<br>
<<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I would be nervous about anything Arista at the moment as Cisco bitch slaps<br>
> them in court and wins.<br>
><br>
> This is only a few hours ago:<br>
> <a href="http://www.eweek.com/networking/arista-ceo-pens-letter-to-customers-in-wake-of-cisco-patent-decision.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.eweek.com/networking/arista-ceo-pens-letter-to-customers-in-wake-of-cisco-patent-decision.html</a><br>
><br>
> I wonder what tech they will take out of EOS to make them happy.<br>
><br>
> NEXTDC's AXONVX was fully built on Arista - which I would be nervous about<br>
> from a strategic vendor relationship perspective and I would be diversifying<br>
> my vendor options as fast as I could, but I designed it that way, so it<br>
> shouldn't have an issue, especially since Cumulus has stepped up recently.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ...Skeeve<br>
><br>
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><br>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Claudiu Claudiu <<a href="mailto:auclaudiu@gmail.com">auclaudiu@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Can't comment on price if that was the question,<br>
>> But Arista is quite popular in the DC space. Unmodified linux /extensible<br>
>> via RPMs, CLI.<br>
>> Programmable (Puppet, Ansible / Python, Go natively supported), HW VXLAN,<br>
>> mature L2/L3/Multicast stack, integration to VMware, Openstack etc.<br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Alex Samad <<a href="mailto:alex@samad.com.au">alex@samad.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi<br>
>>><br>
>>> How do arista rate v's the mellanox ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> A<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 1 July 2016 at 10:53, Claudiu Claudiu <<a href="mailto:auclaudiu@gmail.com">auclaudiu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > Hi,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > What about Arista?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Arista 7050SX-64<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > <a href="https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Datasheets/7050SX-128_64_Datasheet.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Datasheets/7050SX-128_64_Datasheet.pdf</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Or Arista 7280R - deep buffer platforms 10/25/40/50/100G (allow entire<br>
>>> > internet routing table in FIB, 1RU/2RU form factor):<br>
>>> > <a href="https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Datasheets/7280R-DataSheet.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arista.com/assets/data/pdf/Datasheets/7280R-DataSheet.pdf</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Alex Huntington<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au">Alex.Huntington@iriworldwide.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Hi Guys!<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Thought I’d throw out a few questions and a request for some feedback<br>
>>> >> around some datacenter switching we are looking at. Currently each<br>
>>> >> server<br>
>>> >> has 6 10GbE NICs of which two are dedicated iSCSI that will run<br>
>>> >> through this<br>
>>> >> fabric.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> The current requirement is to replace our 1000BaseT switching with<br>
>>> >> 10GbE<br>
>>> >> but the cost of SFP+ modules is an issue and currently twinax has been<br>
>>> >> rules<br>
>>> >> out due do cable management issues (don’t ask :/).<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> It would be nice to also standardise for our core also so routing is a<br>
>>> >> “nice to have” but not a requirement.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> If we could get some decent or support 3rd party SFP+ modules for a<br>
>>> >> good<br>
>>> >> price it would make the Cisco/Brocade options much more attractive but<br>
>>> >> never<br>
>>> >> used the Startech or Netgear SFPs before & I’d like to avoid the<br>
>>> >> vendor<br>
>>> >> finger pointing games.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> We are looking at the following<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Dell S4048-ON<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Pros:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Cheap $60 SFP+<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Cheapest switch cost by 20-30%<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - All in one (no port or IP/routing licences required)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Cons:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Different CLI in FTOS, another thing to learn/manage<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Brocade VDX 6490<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Pros:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - ISCLI<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Vendor reputation<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Cons<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - SFP+ price $300+<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Cost of additional port licences e.g. 24-48 port on demand<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Cisco Nexus 3000/9000<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Pros:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Community support & KB/documentation<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Vendor reputation<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - Standardise vendor with all other network gear<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Cons:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - SFP+ $1500+<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> - IP Lite licence costs<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I’d love to hear your thoughts or experience, as I’m sure I’ve missed<br>
>>> >> a<br>
>>> >> few things!<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Cheeeeeers,<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Alex<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
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