<p dir="ltr">Early adopter status for IPv6 stopped being a thing many years ago. OSs, vendors, standards, etc have all been ready for ages.</p>
<p dir="ltr">To claim otherwise would be like claiming people who adopted IPv4 before CIDR or VLSM came into being were somehow disadvantaged for being "early adopters", and those who stuck with protocols that existed before IPv4 until that point "reaped the rewards".</p>
<p dir="ltr">tl;dr: Stop making excuses.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 28 May 2016 9:34 AM, "Mark Delany" <<a href="mailto:g2x@juliet.emu.st">g2x@juliet.emu.st</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="quoted-text">> There isn't a immediate return.<br>
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</div>You could also argue that early adopters are paying a higher price as<br>
they have to wrassle with equipment vendors, train staff, deal with<br>
end-user issues such as old OS instances, deal with competing/evolving<br>
standards/concepts around address management. And, in effect, incur<br>
the cost of managing two networks instead of one.<br>
<br>
The "Jonny-come-lately" crowd reap all the benefits of the early<br>
mis-steps, are able to more easily acquire trained staff, are certain<br>
that vendor kit is now well known to work in all cases, can jump onto<br>
ausnog and get instant answers, can simply adopt BCPs that didn't<br>
formerly exist, etc., etc.<br>
<br>
>From a purely business perspective it is appealing to hold off until<br>
the very last instant as each passing day makes the transition that<br>
little bit easier thanks to the work of others.<br>
<br>
Early adoption is hardly a competitive advantage and businesses are<br>
generally not dumb. If a v4-only hosting company asks you to quantify<br>
how much revenue it has lost thus far, what would your answer be?<br>
Probaby less than zero methinks.<br>
<br>
So they will jump, but they have to see an obvious competitive<br>
advantage/disadvantage first.<br>
<br>
Until then, us tech-types have to continue the struggle with our<br>
bottom-up approach which is painful and slow.<br>
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Mark.<br>
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