<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Yep we have looked at that, but it's another device in the chain and another point of potential failure, and increases the overall cost.</div><div><br></div><div>I was just curious why we were forced to do the shaping in wholesale land, but it appears that in retail land Telstra does it for the customers.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this just another example of Telstra screwing it's wholesale base?<br><br><div>Thanks</div></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Radek</div><div><br>On 3 May 2016, at 9:45 PM, Greg Lipschitz <<a href="mailto:Greg@thesummitgroup.com.au">Greg@thesummitgroup.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>The TW EA service is a TW only product.<br><br>EA is not offered via retail. It is a different product offered by Telstra Retail.<br><br>Why not use your own device as a bridge to do your shaping between the Telstra OS904 and Customer CPE?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Greg<br><br>________________________________________<br>From: AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Radek Tkaczyk <<a href="mailto:r_tkaczyk@hotmail.com">r_tkaczyk@hotmail.com</a>><br>Sent: 03 May 2016 21:07:34<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra wholesale EA fibre shaping<br><br>Hi Guys,<br><br>With Telstra Wholesale EA Fibre circuits we have always had to do the shaping on these services because Telstra would simply drop non-confirming packets that burst over the purchased bandwidth. This is typically not a problem as we would usually supply a Cisco router and just apply the shaping on the Cisco router.<br><br>However sometimes the customer wants to use their own router/firewall and connect this directly to the OS904 Fibre NTU that Telstra supply, so they have to do the shaping on their router, and a lot of people struggle to get this right.<br><br>I have been told that on Telstra retail services, for example the 50/50Mbps fibre $850 promo that Telstra retail offer, that the end users do not need to perform shaping on their equipment, that Telstra retail does the shaping for them.<br><br>Can anyone confirm if this is indeed correct? Seems strange that it is different for Telstra wholesale compared to Telstra retail.<br><br>Or have I had my head in the clouds for too long?<br><br>How are other people handling this shaping requirement?<br><br>Thanks<br>Radek<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><div style="mso-line-height-rule:exactly;-webkit-text-size-adjust:100%;"><br><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="background-color:#FFFFFF;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:0;line-height:normal;"><tbody><tr style="line-height:15px;white-space:nowrap;"><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;"><tbody><tr style="font-size:0;"><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:12px;color:#000001;font-style:normal;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;"><tbody><tr><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Greg Lipschitz</td><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;white-space:normal;"> | </td><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;">Founder & CEO</td><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-weight:normal;white-space:normal;"> | </td><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;">The Summit Group</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:Greg@thesummitgroup.com.au" target="_blank" id="LPlnk689713" style="color:#253374;text-decoration:underline;"><strong style="font-weight:normal;">Greg@thesummitgroup.com.au</strong></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><a href="http://thesummitgroup.com.au" target="_blank" id="LPlnk689713" style="color:#253374;text-decoration:underline;"><strong style="font-weight:normal;">thesummitgroup.com.au</strong></a></td></tr><tr><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><a href="tel:1300%20049%20749" target="_blank" id="LPlnk689713" style="color:#000001;text-decoration:none;"><strong style="font-weight:normal;">1300 049 749</strong></a></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr style="line-height:15px;white-space:nowrap;"><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" style="border-collapse:collapse;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;"><tbody><tr><td align="left" style="vertical-align:top;text-align:left;font-family:Arial,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;"><a href="https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/The+Summit+Group+(Australia)+Pty+Ltd/@-37.8195827,145.1485403,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x6ad638b2d1d03e19:0xfb75608e0ae9e67e!2sThe+Summit+Group+(Australia)+Pty+Ltd!3b1!3m1!1s0x6ad638b2d1d03e19:0xfb75608e0ae9e67e" target="_blank" id="LPlnk689713" style="color:#000001;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