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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Why are you forced to use PPPOE ? you can use IPOE with NWB I’m pretty sure, if you think PPPOE is hard for NBN try doing IPOE, it’s painful IMHO and that’s why most people are doing PPPOE, plus they can just hook it into existing DSL systems so it reduces implementation costs and complexity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just my opinion though, I’m sure there will be plenty of other thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Mcintosh<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 6 April 2016 10:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> Ausnog<br><b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Which NBN RSP are using PPPoE vs IP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2492"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'>To all the NBN RSPs on list.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2492"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2492"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'>For NBN (FTTP and VDSL) subscribers are you using PPPoE to authenticate user CPE or straight IP/DHCP?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2515"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2531"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'>Correct me if I'm wrong but it would seem to me that Telstra and iiNet are the only NBN RSPs that use straight IP rather than PPPoE.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2531"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1459901433311_2531"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue","serif";color:black'>We are using AAPT's NWB which forces us to use PPPoE. This obviously adds both a network and support overhead and I'm wondering if there is any way to do straight out IP like Telstra and iiNet are doing. Interestingly it would seem that even TPG does NBN auth with PPPoE which seems odd given they and iiNet are one.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>