<div dir="ltr"><div>Lan parties on Sunday could go wireless,  be interesting to see how Telstra towers cope with 50-100+ devices that might be sitting there downloading at full speed. (or whatever 1/10G backhaul divided by 100 allows)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Bevan Slattery <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Oh dear.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>[b]</font></span></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On 12 Feb 2016, at 6:49 PM, Tom Berryman <<a href="mailto:Tom@connectivityit.com.au" target="_blank">Tom@connectivityit.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>






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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 February 2016 7:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Narelle <<a href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" target="_blank">narellec@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile down "nationwide"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apparently this Sunday is free data day, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>As a small gesture to say sorry, we’re giving you — as a Telstra mobile
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Whether you’re on a personal or business, pre-paid or post-paid mobile, tablet or mobile broadband plan, you will automatically receive free data, from ​midnight ​to ​midnight in your local Australian time zone ​Sunday ​14 ​February ​2016.  </i>            
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Narelle <<a href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" target="_blank">narellec@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Then there's this one:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A lot of it has to do with the massive increase in signalling as each user terminal tries to re-register with the HLR/HSS (3G/4G respectively).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's why when you bring them back on you have to do it gradually... it is a highly reliable system generally and 4G is definitely more so than 3G.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Roland Dobbins <<a href="mailto:rdobbins@arbor.net" target="_blank">rdobbins@arbor.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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