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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Reminds me of the old DataTac network. 
      Same thing occurred there, if and RNG failed, if the switch-over
      to the standby failed for some reason, the resulting registration
      storm caused the network to fall-over for 18 hours.   I ended up
      writing an app to command userland devices to stagger/hold off
      registration based on (last digit of serial number x time in
      seconds).<br>
      <br>
      Solved the issue nicely.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 10/02/2016 2:37 PM, Shane Short wrote:<br>
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      So from what I've been reading apparently an engineer restarted an
      MME without migrating the customers manually to another MME, which
      I assume then booted a heap of them off the network? Apparently
      the registration storm from that then overloaded the remaining
      MME's which then caused all of the things to break?<br>
      <br>
      I hear they're blaming the engineer because he didn't migrate
      customers over to another MME, but what if they had an actual
      failure in the MME? It sounds like the network isn't designed to
      handle the resulting authentication (over)load and completely
      falls over-- so as much as the engineer triggered the fault, I'm
      not sure it's entirely his fault that it then went to complete
      shit?<br>
      <br>
      (I'll admit I'm very green on the UTRAN/E-UTRA stuff, but it's
      something I have immense curiosity about, if someone can correct
      me, or point me in the right direction if I'm wrong here, I'd be
      much appreciative)<br>
      <br>
      -Shane<br>
      <br>
      <span>Clay Quinn wrote:</span><br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Can

              confirm it was indeed an MME failure…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Clay
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Narelle<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 9 February 2016 6:23 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Joe Saxton <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                href="mailto:Joe.Saxton@workforce.com.au"><Joe.Saxton@workforce.com.au></a><br>
              <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile down
              "nationwide"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Well, it is possible for a 4G HSS
                (HLR in the 3G world) to go down. That report however
                makes me think it might have been an MME... Given it was
                national, however, I'm thinking HSS. Though with
                millions of devices disconnecting and re-registering the
                traffic load cascades phenomenally and all sorts of
                fault behaviour will appear.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Given the person in the interview
                didn't identify the "node", it still isn't clear exactly
                what went wrong at all.
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://servicestatus.telstra.com/">http://servicestatus.telstra.com/</a>
                doesn't really give enough clues at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">In the old 3G networks the RNC
                couldn't be set up in a redundant configuration, so if
                you didn't have enough, or one failed, you couldn't
                redirect traffic from all the connected base stations.
                Now you can with MMEs, and that would be consistent with
                this description.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">But - it sounds more like a call
                server issue (CSCF) if it is affecting some fixed
                networks. Also it is national. Call servers you deploy
                more centrally.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Then again, the spokesperson also
                says "one of the nodes used to manage voice and data
                traffic between devices and the network started to
                malfunction" - so again I'm thinking MME...<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Narelle Clark<o:p></o:p></p>
            </div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">PS - 000 is a mapping rather than
                something embedded in the system. You condition your
                network for that sort of local feature. Personally I'd
                always go for 112 on a mobile.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            </div>
          </div>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Joe
                Saxton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Joe.Saxton@workforce.com.au"
                  target="_blank">Joe.Saxton@workforce.com.au</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It

                        no doubt this would have been human error. With
                        all the redundant systems in place, you just
                        wonder an outage like this and this long more
                        likely human error. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                        style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a></a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cameron Murray<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 9 February 2016 4:45 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> James Gray <<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:james@gray.net.au"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:james@gray.net.au">james@gray.net.au</a></a>><br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                          target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra mobile down
                        "nationwide"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.9news.com.au/technology/2016/02/09/13/11/reports-of-telstra-mobile-services-outage"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.9news.com.au/technology/2016/02/09/13/11/reports-of-telstra-mobile-services-outage">http://www.9news.com.au/technology/2016/02/09/13/11/reports-of-telstra-mobile-services-outage</a></a><o:p></o:p></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Keep
                              backing up the bus...<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                              Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:54 PM, James Gray
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:james@gray.net.au"
                                target="_blank">james@gray.net.au</a>>

                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <blockquote
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">In
                                  addition to the traditional swiss-army
                                  knife known as "telnet", getting
                                  "curl" to dump just the HTTP headers
                                  is also a handy one to keep up your
                                  sleeve:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">0:><b>curl

                                      -I
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://triplezero.com.au"
                                        target="_blank">http://triplezero.com.au</a></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">HTTP/1.1
                                    200 OK<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Connection:
                                    close<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Date:
                                    Tue, 09 Feb 2016 04:45:18 GMT<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Server:
                                    Microsoft-IIS/6.0<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">X-Powered-By:
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://ASP.NET"
                                      target="_blank">ASP.NET</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Content-Type:

                                    text/html; charset=UTF-8<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Also
                                    telnet wont work with SSL sites (ie,
                                    https), but if you have openssl
                                    installed, you can do this instead:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">0:><b>openssl

                                        s_client -quiet -connect
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://www.google.com:443"
                                          target="_blank">www.google.com:443</a></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
                                    openssl method also works on other
                                    SSL-enabled service like POP3S and
                                    IMAPS etc. I have it aliased in my
                                    shell config:<br>
                                    <b>alias stelnet="openssl s_client
                                      -quiet -connect"</b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">...then
                                    all I need to do is: "stelnet
                                    host:port"<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Just
                                    good to have tucked away in case you
                                    need to break out the command-line
                                    hammer.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">James<o:p></o:p></p>
                                </div>
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                              <div>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
                                        9 February 2016 at 15:15, Ross
                                        Wheeler <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net"
                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@rossw.net">ausnog@rossw.net</a></a>>
                                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          On Tue, 9 Feb 2016, Shane
                                          Chrisp wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <blockquote
                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yep,
                                            that was just my fat
                                            fingers. I am trying to get
                                            to the
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://triplezero.com.au"
                                              target="_blank">triplezero.com.au</a>
                                            but no go.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <blockquote
                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                          #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm
                                          0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">traceroute
                                            to
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://www.triplezero.gov.au"
                                              target="_blank">www.triplezero.gov.au</a>
                                            (115.178.104.72), 30 hops
                                            max, 60 byte
                                            <o:p></o:p></p>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">...<o:p></o:p></p>
                                        <blockquote
                                          style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                                          0cm
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">11 
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://bundle-ether2.civ.core2.canberra.telstra.net"
                                              target="_blank">bundle-ether2.civ.core2.canberra.telstra.net</a>
                                            (203.50.6.82)  71.834 ms
                                            71.845 ms  70.450 ms<br>
                                            12  <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://Bundle-Ethernet1.civ-edge901.canberra.telstra.net"
                                              target="_blank">
Bundle-Ethernet1.civ-edge901.canberra.telstra.net</a> (203.50.8.35)
                                            69.126 ms 69.138 ms  69.042
                                            ms<br>
                                            13  <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://telstr1248.lnk.telstra.net"
                                              target="_blank">telstr1248.lnk.telstra.net</a>
                                            (165.228.21.206)  68.991 ms 
                                            68.981 ms 68.926 ms<br>
                                            14  * * *<br>
                                            15  * * *<br>
                                            16  * * *<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          Traceroute is only one tool in
                                          a toolbox, and frequently not
                                          as helpful as you might hope.<br>
                                          <br>
                                           5  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bundle-ether2.chw-edge902.sydney.telstra.net"
                                            target="_blank">
bundle-ether2.chw-edge902.sydney.telstra.net</a> (203.50.11.105)  2.002
                                          ms<br>
                                           6  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bundle-ether2.dkn-core1.canberra.telstra.net"
                                            target="_blank">
bundle-ether2.dkn-core1.canberra.telstra.net</a> (203.50.6.129)  8.918
                                          ms<br>
                                           7  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bundle-ether2.civ.core2.canberra.telstra.net"
                                            target="_blank">
bundle-ether2.civ.core2.canberra.telstra.net</a> (203.50.6.82)  9.334 ms<br>
                                           8  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://Bundle-Ethernet1.civ-edge901.canberra.telstra.net"
                                            target="_blank">
Bundle-Ethernet1.civ-edge901.canberra.telstra.net</a> (203.50.8.35) 
                                          7.822 ms<br>
                                           9  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://telstr1248.lnk.telstra.net" target="_blank">telstr1248.lnk.telstra.net</a>
                                          (165.228.21.206)  9.189 ms<br>
                                          10  *<br>
                                          11  *<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Yes, it appear to not be
                                          reachable....<br>
                                          <br>
                                          However using another tool  it
                                          clearly IS working....<br>
                                          <br>
                                          # telnet <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://triplezero.gov.au"
                                            target="_blank">triplezero.gov.au</a>
                                          80<br>
                                          Trying 2403:d500::48...<br>
                                          telnet: connect to address
                                          2403:d500::48: No route to
                                          host<br>
                                          Trying 115.178.104.72...<br>
                                          Connected to <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://triplezero.gov.au"
                                            target="_blank">triplezero.gov.au</a>.<br>
                                          Escape character is '^]'.<br>
                                          GET / http/1.0<br>
                                          <br>
                                          HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden<br>
                                          Cache-Control: no-cache<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          There's also a hint there....<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
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