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From yours (or anyone elses) experiences, can these TID services
utilise BGP between yourself and Telstra to advertise your own IP
space on the link?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/12/15 14:52,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au</a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You
are correct Bradley, it’s not an apples to apples
comparison.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With
these services Telstra are selling they can only be
Internet, nothing else, no multiple vlan options, no QOS
options, no improved SLA, etc, however, it’s a matter of
convincing the customer of the benefits you can offer them
with a service you can provide via another technology and
why it’s more money, but in many cases they customer may
just want Internet and won’t care about the other fancy
features, and TW customers don’t have access to this product
from what I have been told by TW so there is no way to
compete with it unless you can do some pretty good bundling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Bradley Amm<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 December 2015 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet
Fibre Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Too
bad you’re not comparing apples with apples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Your
comparing a Enterprise Grade 1 to 1 fibre service from a
global Telco to a GPON residential grade service that is
delivered over a shared medium <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Wicks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 December 2015 7:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet
Fibre Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-NZ">You guys have been ripped off for quite a long
time, In NZ the pricing dropped through the floor quite some
time ago –<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-NZ">200/200 unlimited $149+gst (yes that is true
unlimited)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-NZ"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.callplus.co.nz/BusinessUFBCalculator.aspx">https://www.callplus.co.nz/BusinessUFBCalculator.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Bomba<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 December 2015 12:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet Fibre
Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">We have a client who
went direct with TPG for a 400/400MBit - Unlimited Fibre
installed for $400/month. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">The premise has
existing fibre supplied by AAPT, but even still I
thought it was incredibly cheap... Perhaps a sign of
things to come?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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