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    From yours (or anyone elses) experiences, can these TID services
    utilise BGP between yourself and Telstra to advertise your own IP
    space on the link?<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/12/15 14:52,
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au">paul+ausnog@oxygennetworks.com.au</a> wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You
            are correct Bradley, it’s not an apples to apples
            comparison.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With
            these services Telstra are selling they can only be
            Internet, nothing else, no multiple vlan options, no QOS
            options, no improved SLA, etc, however, it’s a matter of
            convincing the customer of the benefits you can offer them
            with a service you can provide via another technology and
            why it’s more money, but in many cases they customer may
            just want Internet and won’t care about the other fancy
            features, and TW customers don’t have access to this product
            from what I have been told by TW so there is no way to
            compete with it unless you can do some pretty good bundling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>Bradley Amm<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 December 2015 2:08 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet
                Fibre Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Too
            bad you’re not comparing apples with apples<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Your
            comparing a Enterprise Grade 1 to 1 fibre service from a
            global Telco to a GPON residential grade service that is
            delivered over a shared medium <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Wicks<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 December 2015 7:27 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet
                Fibre Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">You guys have been ripped off for quite a long
            time, In NZ the pricing dropped through the floor quite some
            time ago –<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ">200/200 unlimited $149+gst (yes that is true
            unlimited)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-NZ"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://www.callplus.co.nz/BusinessUFBCalculator.aspx">https://www.callplus.co.nz/BusinessUFBCalculator.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
            lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Bomba<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 December 2015 12:19 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet Fibre
            Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">We have a client who
              went direct with TPG for a 400/400MBit - Unlimited Fibre
              installed for $400/month. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">The premise has
                existing fibre supplied by AAPT, but even still I
                thought it was incredibly cheap... Perhaps a sign of
                things to come?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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