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<div>That's completely contradictory to what we've been told by NBN and its 121 PoP's. You can connect to as little or as many as you like.</div>
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On 5 Dec 2015, at 21:35, Andrew Kitchen <<a href="mailto:a.kitchen@xi.com.au">a.kitchen@xi.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">You don't HAVE to, you can pick and choose. Some have onboarded to their concentration areas and bought from aggregators for the rest.</p>
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<div class="cm_quote" style="color:#787878">On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Andrew Kitchen <<a href="mailto:a.kitchen@xi.com.au">a.kitchen@xi.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">We recently looked at this but the killer is we had to connect to all 151 POP's.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">There has been discussions some time ago about getting a group of us together to setup a not for profit like WAIX but those discussions haven't progressed any further at this stage.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449310346031_2446" dir="ltr">As would be the case with many smaller ISPs on this list we are buying our layer 2 NBN through an aggregator. For us the cost is the tail price plus a fixed amount of AGVC.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449310346031_2446" dir="ltr">I'm trying to understand what costs would be involved in going to NBN Co directly. I know the components are AVC, CVC, backhaul to the POI and the end customer tails but can anyone point me to what each of
these would cost directly from NBN Co?</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449310346031_2446" dir="ltr">I'm assuming since all ISPs buy at the same rate that this info wouldn't be secret but I seem to be having a hard time finding it anywhere.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449310346031_2446" dir="ltr">Also hugely useful would be if someone has done the numbers - at what point (in terms of end customer numbers) does it make financial sense to go direct in a particular POI rather than through an aggregator?</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1449310346031_2446" dir="ltr">Any pointers would be much appreciated.</div>
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