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    As a consumer network, I no longer saw value in PIPE IX a while ago
    - very different for a hosting network as TPG are a large number of
    consumer population, but given Google, Apple, Netflix, Akamai,
    Cloudflare, Amazon, Microsoft etc are all on at least 1 or 2 of
    NSW-IX, EIE or MegaIX, then I saw no need for PIPE and its expensive
    price tag.<br>
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    I actually calculated the other day, at my current average combined
    usage and cost of the 3 IX's I peer with, it works out about 40%
    cheaper per mbit compared to my transit costs, but obviously has
    lots of room for growth at the same fixed cost so that will only get
    better. IX's also account for 40-60% of my inbound traffic also, so
    definitely cheap!<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/12/15 15:38, Matt Perkins wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> 'TPG advertise some of subnets
        here'.  - "some" being the key word here.  There on their last
        legs with us. Between IXAU and Megaport there effectively
        useless. <br>
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        Matt.<br>
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        On 2/12/2015 2:16 PM, Nathan Brookfield wrote:<br>
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          <p>There are a lot of people industry wide trying to determine
            whether they should start dropping the PIPE fabric
            nationally with the only legitimate reason being 'TPG
            advertise some of subnets here'. </p>
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          Good question Shane!<br>
          <br>
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                color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Shane Short <a
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                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 December 2015 2:14 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Nathan Brookfield<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Joseph Goldman; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NSWIX Peering</font>
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            <div>Hijacking this a little bit, what do people actually
              look for when you're deciding what IXP you should peer
              with? Is it table size, traffic volume, or a specific peer
              that's on the fabric?<br>
              <br>
              I've always peered with WAIX because that's just what we
              had, but i'm curious what metrics people care about when
              you have a choice.<br>
              <br>
              -Shane<br>
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              <span>Nathan Brookfield wrote:</span><br>
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                  <p>Hi Gavin,</p>
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                  <p>I think Joe's figures may be a little off, the
                    routing table is approximately:</p>
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                  <p>RS1 v4: 14343</p>
                  <p>RS2 v4: 14337</p>
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                  <span style="">RS1 v6: 943</span><br style="">
                  <span style="">RS2 v6: 943</span>
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                  <div>Many Thanks,</div>
                  <div>Nathan Brookfield </div>
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                          on behalf of Joseph Goldman <a
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                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 December 2015 12:43
                          PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NSWIX Peering</font>
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                      <div>My sessions currently show:<br>
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                        RS1 v4: 14242<br>
                        RS2 v4: 14236<br>
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                        RS1 v6: 943<br>
                        RS2 v6: 943<br>
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                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/12/15 12:36,
                          Gavin Davis (GC) wrote:<br>
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                              anyone be able to tell me the size of the
                              NSWIX route table (v4 & v6)</p>
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