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    Did they buy the network or did they buy the competition?<br>
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    If it's the latter then the state of the network is entirely
    irrelevant.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/15 06:14, Robert Hudson wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">Those were my thoughts exactly Skeeve. The Optus HFC
        network has been in a disgraceful state for years, and anyone
        who's had any involvement with it knew that.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Great to see that NBN did the appropriate levels of
        due dilligence before handing over so much money...</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On 26 Nov 2015 12:38 am, "Skeeve Stevens"
        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div>They could have just asked us... we would have told
              them how bad it was.</div>
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            <div>...Skeeve</div>
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            <div>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/nbn/nbns-800-million-optus-network-might-need-to-be-rebuilt/news-story/058b1a409439b2d0b797bda37aec4ed7"
                target="_blank">http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/nbn/nbns-800-million-optus-network-might-need-to-be-rebuilt/news-story/058b1a409439b2d0b797bda37aec4ed7</a></div>
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              MALCOLM Turnbull and the NBN have spent $800 million on a
              network that almost completely needs to be rebuilt.<br>
              <br>
              As part of the Coalition government’s multi-technology
              National Broadband Network, the government bought Optus’s
              ageing hybrid fibre-coaxial (HFC) cable network, which was
              originally rolled out in the 1990s for pay TV, for $800
              million.<br>
              <br>
              But leaked documents obtained by Fairfax Mediareveal the
              government is planning to replace that $800 million
              network at a cost of an extra $375 million.<br>
              <br>
              The documents claim that the Optus HFC network is “not fit
              for purpose” and nearing the end of its life, while other
              parts of it are simply already oversubscribed and wouldn’t
              be able to deliver on the speeds promised by Mr Turnbull
              and his government.<br>
              <br>
              These new plans would see the Optus network rebuilt with
              either Telstra’s HFC or fibre-to-the-node technology,
              which was originally planned for 38 per cent of the
              network. On top of the huge cost blowout, which is already
              expected to be $15 billion over budget, the NBN will be
              missing the rollout targets of 633,000 premises in 2017
              and 2018, which will now have to wait until 2019 at the
              earliest to be connected.<br>
              <br>
              An initial agreement was made between the NBN and Optus in
              2012, where it was approved by the Australian Competition
              and Consumer Commission under the grounds that the
              government could gradually decommission Optus’s HFC and
              replace it with fibre-to-the-premises broadband
              connections.<br>
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              The existing network needed upgrades and it was deemed
              commercially unviable for Optus to do that work and
              maintain it.<br>
              <br>
              Despite this, the deal was revised in 2015 the government
              would keep Optus’s HFC network in use and make upgrades
              where needed for the same $800 million price tag.<br>
              <br>
              Opposition communications spokesman Jason Clare slammed
              the findings of the document, saying it showed “more
              evidence of the absolute mess that Malcolm Turnbull has
              created with his second-rate NBN”.<br>
              <br>
              “It reveals that the Optus HFC network, a key component of
              Malcolm Turnbull’s second-rate NBN, is in far worse
              condition than Australians were led to believe and NBN Co
              is considering overbuilding the network — costing hundreds
              of millions and meaning hundreds of thousands of
              Australians will have to wait longer to get the NBN,” Mr
              Clare said.<br>
              <br>
              Optus said that it always acknowledged the HFC network
              needed major investment to manage subscriber growth and
              capacity demand.<br>
              <br>
              A statement from NBN Co said the corporate plan had
              accounted for the ebbs and flows of the project.<br>
              <br>
              “NBN has met or exceeded all targets over the past 18
              months and we remain confident in our long range plan and
              the various strategies we have in place to manage the
              risk,” the statement said.<br>
              <br>
              “Nearly 1.5 million homes and businesses can now order an
              NBN service and nearly 700,000 are connected.<br>
              <br>
              “In order to manage risk NBN regularly prepares for
              multiple scenarios in the network deployment — the
              document concerned is part of that ongoing approach of
              risk mitigation.”<br>
              <br>
              “Our corporate plan has accounted for the ebbs and flows
              expected in a project of this scale.<br>
              <br>
              “NBN has met or exceeded all targets over the past 18
              months and we remain confident in our long range plan and
              the various strategies we have in place to manage the
              risk.<br>
              <br>
              “Nearly 1.5 million homes and businesses can now order an
              nbn service and nearly 700,000 are connected. In order to
              manage risk, NBN regularly prepares for multiple scenarios
              in the network deployment - the document concerned is part
              of that ongoing approach of risk mitigation.”<br>
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                                        style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">...Skeeve</p>
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                                        style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve
                                        Stevens - The ISP Guy - Internet
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