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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Skeeve - Seems to me that 115A(3)(b)
indicates the court action needs to explicitly name each ISP that
is going to be asked to implement anything, and 115A(4)(a) means
each ISP that is named must be notified that the application is
being made, so you can choose whether or not to participate in the
court action or not. If you are not named and notified, you won't
be served the injunction, so you won't need to do anything. These
days, naming the top 5 ISPs is likely to cover a decent percentage
of the userbase.<br>
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115A(5)f is something the judge has to take into account in
deciding whether or not to grant the injunction. An ISP that is
named might be able to advise the judge on this point, but an ISP
that is not named doesn't have any say at that point - not your
problem.<br>
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If you receive an injunction, your entire requirement to act is
described in 115A(2) "Take reasonable steps to disable access to
the online location".<br>
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Like most things the law describes the desired outcome, not the
method. Its up to you. If you are given a domain name or URL and
your idea of 'reasonable step' is to block the IP address, and
there is a pile of collateral damage, then the ensuing publicity
might make the next application be considered differently. You
might instead choose to add a DNS hack within your network. Its
entirely your individual call how you "disable access", and it
doesn't have to be 100% effective, just "reasonable steps".
Whatever that means.<br>
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On 23/11/2015 11:39 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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<div>Re: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cnet.com/au/news/village-roadshow-prepares-site-blocking-application-for-federal-court/">http://www.cnet.com/au/news/village-roadshow-prepares-site-blocking-application-for-federal-court/</a></div>
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<div>So, how are ISPs planning to implement this blocking.</div>
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<div>How indeed are all ISPs even going to be told of the
requirements? Does the right holder have to contact every ISP
in the country or are ISPs just supposed to know it has to
happen?</div>
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<div>The legislation: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r5446_third-reps/toc_pdf/15056b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf">http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r5446_third-reps/toc_pdf/15056b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf</a></div>
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<div>Some thoughts:</div>
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<div>- 115A(3)b. Does this mean the rights holder has to get an
injunction against each an every CSP (ISP)?</div>
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<div>- 115A(5)f. How would anyone know (with a certainty) if
other websites are hosted on the same IP address?</div>
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<div>Doe anyone else have thoughts/understanding on the
mechanics on how this is supposed to work?</div>
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