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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Skeeve Stevens" <skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:33 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Paul Brooks" <pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "ausnog@ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] Site Blocking Coming</span>
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<div dir="ltr">Yup... basically as I thought.... and thought it worth bringing up with the community. It will be interesting to see who/what/how happens.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Paul Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>></span> wrote:
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<div>Skeeve - Seems to me that 115A(3)(b) indicates the court action needs to explicitly name each ISP that is going to be asked to implement anything, and 115A(4)(a) means each ISP that is named must be notified that the application is being made, so you can choose whether or not to participate in the court action or not. If you are not named and notified, you won't be served the injunction, so you won't need to do anything. These days, naming the top 5 ISPs is likely to cover a decent percentage of the userbase.<br />
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115A(5)f is something the judge has to take into account in deciding whether or not to grant the injunction. An ISP that is named might be able to advise the judge on this point, but an ISP that is not named doesn't have any say at that point - not your problem.<br />
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If you receive an injunction, your entire requirement to act is described in 115A(2) "Take reasonable steps to disable access to the online location".<br />
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Like most things the law describes the desired outcome, not the method. Its up to you. If you are given a domain name or URL and your idea of 'reasonable step' is to block the IP address, and there is a pile of collateral damage, then the ensuing publicity might make the next application be considered differently. You might instead choose to add a DNS hack within your network. Its entirely your individual call how you "disable access", and it doesn't have to be 100% effective, just "reasonable steps". Whatever that means.<br />
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<div>Re: <a href="http://www.cnet.com/au/news/village-roadshow-prepares-site-blocking-application-for-federal-court/" target="_blank">http://www.cnet.com/au/news/village-roadshow-prepares-site-blocking-application-for-federal-court/</a></div>
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<div>So, how are ISPs planning to implement this blocking.</div>
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<div>How indeed are all ISPs even going to be told of the requirements? Does the right holder have to contact every ISP in the country or are ISPs just supposed to know it has to happen?</div>
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<div>The legislation: <a href="http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r5446_third-reps/toc_pdf/15056b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf" target="_blank">http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r5446_third-reps/toc_pdf/15056b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf</a></div>
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<div>- 115A(3)b. Does this mean the rights holder has to get an injunction against each an every CSP (ISP)?</div>
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<div>- 115A(5)f. How would anyone know (with a certainty) if other websites are hosted on the same IP address?</div>
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<div>Doe anyone else have thoughts/understanding on the mechanics on how this is supposed to work?</div>
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