<div dir="ltr">Yup... basically as I thought.... and thought it worth bringing up with the community.  It will be interesting to see who/what/how happens.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D"><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy - Internet Provider SME</p></font></font><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D"><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; Cell: +61(0)414 753 383</p></font></font></font><div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#20497d">Skype: skeeve; </font><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font></font></div><div><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Paul Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Skeeve - Seems to me that 115A(3)(b)
      indicates the court action needs to explicitly name each ISP that
      is going to be asked to implement anything, and 115A(4)(a) means
      each ISP that is named must be notified that the application is
      being made, so you can choose whether or not to participate in the
      court action or not. If you are not named and notified, you won't
      be served the injunction, so you won't need to do anything. These
      days, naming the top 5 ISPs is likely to cover a decent percentage
      of the userbase.<br>
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      115A(5)f is something the judge has to take into account in
      deciding whether or not to grant the injunction. An ISP that is
      named might be able to advise the judge on this point, but an ISP
      that is not named doesn't have any say at that point - not your
      problem.<br>
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      If you receive an injunction, your entire requirement to act is
      described in 115A(2)  "Take reasonable steps to disable access to
      the online location".<br>
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      Like most things the law describes the desired outcome, not the
      method. Its up to you. If you are given a domain name or URL and
      your idea of 'reasonable step' is to block the IP address, and
      there is a pile of collateral damage, then the ensuing publicity
      might make the next application be considered differently. You
      might instead choose to add a DNS hack within your network. Its
      entirely your individual call how you "disable access", and it
      doesn't have to be 100% effective, just "reasonable steps".
      Whatever that means.<br>
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      On 23/11/2015 11:39 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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        <div>Re: <a href="http://www.cnet.com/au/news/village-roadshow-prepares-site-blocking-application-for-federal-court/" target="_blank">http://www.cnet.com/au/news/village-roadshow-prepares-site-blocking-application-for-federal-court/</a></div>
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        <div>So, how are ISPs planning to implement this blocking.</div>
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        <div>How indeed are all ISPs even going to be told of the
          requirements?  Does the right holder have to contact every ISP
          in the country or are ISPs just supposed to know it has to
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        <div>The legislation: <a href="http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r5446_third-reps/toc_pdf/15056b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf" target="_blank">http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r5446_third-reps/toc_pdf/15056b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf</a></div>
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        <div>Some thoughts:</div>
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        <div>- 115A(3)b. Does this mean the rights holder has to get an
          injunction against each an every CSP (ISP)?</div>
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        <div>- 115A(5)f. How would anyone know (with a certainty) if
          other websites are hosted on the same IP address?</div>
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        <div>Doe anyone else have thoughts/understanding on the
          mechanics on how this is supposed to work?</div>
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                                      ...Skeeve</p>
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                                      Stevens - The ISP Guy - Internet
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