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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Andrew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Further to your post<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Galong in rural NSW faced a similar problem. (pop < 150)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>We solved the problem for them and now run a high end business grade facility for the whole town backhauled to our data centre in Harden which runs the same way<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Have a look at <a href="http://www.swwcc.com.au">www.swwcc.com.au</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I believe we can offer the same solution for your community<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Geoff Peach<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Director of Information Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Regional Wireless Communications Company<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>Mobile: +61 419 956 440<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-AU'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Chris Legg<br>Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2015 4:39 PM<br>To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Connecting a rural Community</span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I'm not sure that (up to) 30 subscribers will be economical for fixed line services, however what you describe sounds perfect for fixed wireless. It will be more cost effective especially if equipment will need to be replaced due to fire damage. It will probably use less power too, which might provide more flexibility with the power constraints.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Have you looked into NBN Satellite? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-business/information-for-home-or-business/satellite.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-business/information-for-home-or-business/satellite.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Looking forward to hearing other ideas on this topic :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On 11/11/2015 3:51 AM, Andrew McN wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I'm looking at options for improving the connectivity of a rural <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> community about 90 minutes out of Melbourne. I know a bit about <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> server environments in a data center, but I don't know much about <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> things like fibre, trenching, microwave links, or dealing with backhaul providers.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> So I'm looking for input about what sort of technologies I should be <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> looking at, what costs I should expect, and maybe who might be able to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> help me.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> * The community comprises 30 households and assorted work from home <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> businesses on a single property on a mountain top.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> * Power is off-grid solar. There's excellent local skills for <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> anything needed there.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> * There's phone lines, but ADSL and ISDN are not available.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> * There's an Optus Cell tower just 100m or so off the property.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> * There's good line of sight over a large area of populated land. with <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> other Cell towers and the like. None of this however is covered by <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> any NBN roll-out either current or planned.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> * Fire risk is significant.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> The houses are arranged in 6 clusters, each of which has a fire shelter.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I'm thinking, perhaps naively, it would be good to run fibre to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> each fire shelter, preferably underground, and then use above ground <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ethernet from there to the houses. That would mean about 3km of <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> underground cables. I think the ground is sandy loam in most parts, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> but there's some bits where forested bits where tree roots might be an <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> issue. What do I need to know to work out likely costs here? Is it <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> just a cable which needs to go underground, or is some sort of conduit needed?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> What about the uplink? Is Optus likely to be approachable about a <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> fibre link right to their tower? Is it a doable thing to arrange a <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> private microwave link? Who might I be looking to link to? Costs?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Any particular companies I should be aware of for setting this sort of <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> thing up?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Any help much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Andrew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>