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Hi John,<br>
<br>
'K9' refers to the software image having encryption included. It
does indicate any hardware difference.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/11/15 12:35, John Edwards wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The 867VAE is fine for 100mbps NBN connections.
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<div>On VDSL2 connections in ideal conditions, it is good for
~97M sync speed with ~82M of download throughput using
NAT/ACLs/PPP. NAT barely makes a difference.</div>
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<div>The "K9" model has some more CPU power than the not-K9
model, this is possibly why you'll see conflicting test
results.</div>
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<div>The other cool thing the 867VAE can do is boot a config
from USB. This gives you an option to provide a "rescue disk"
for end users if they or their local IT guy go too far with
their config experiments.</div>
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<div>John</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 November 2015 at 23:58, Skeeve
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<div>Excellent details... but still... the throughput
still isn't very capable.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:57 PM,
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document was last updated in 2009 and most things on
it are now EoL and/or obsoleted. For example the 860
on that document is the old original model that IIRC
is end of life, not the much newer 867VAE, so the
figures don't apply. Ditto for the 880s -
superseeded by the 880VA's.<br>
<br>
My real world testing on an 867VAE indicates that
50Mbit/sec is probably closer to the limit before
the CPU starts to eat dirt. That's with NAT but no
ACLs and definitely no ZBFW. A 100M NBN service
would definitely be beyond one of these units.<br>
<br>
Smartnet on them is around $40/year.<br>
<br>
I have run into one problem with the 867VAE though.
I have one deployed in NZ and the DSL trainup time
varies between 2 mins and about an hour. I raised a
TAC case on it, Cisco have told me in writing more
than once that the firmware on that platform is very
very ancient and cannot be upgraded (even though
there is a download of Broadcom firmware for it on
CCO which strongly suggests that it can be
upgraded). They suggested that a fix for the issue
was to upgrade to the 880VA, or to get the carrier
(Chorus) to tweak DSLAM settings to drop the
interleave delay. Neither were palatable options on
what was a new install.<br>
<br>
On another one that was installed on a long line in
Campbelltown NSW it performed very well until the
NBN was delivered a couple of months ago. Now it
drives a 25M NBN service easily and the upgrade from
ADSL to NBN was done without a new router.<br>
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However despite these experiences, overall I would
say that they are great for functionality and great
value for the price.<br>
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I don't think either of these routers have the
throughput to handle<br>
decent NBN connections.<br>
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870 series - 12.8Mbps<br>
860 series - 12.8Mbps<br>
880 series - 25.6Mbos<br>
890 series - 51.2Mbos<br>
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Hi Guys,____<br>
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For those that use Cisco CPE routers, I’d
like to get some opinions<br>
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on these two models of routers, Cisco 887VA
and Cisco 867VA.____<br>
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We have always used the Cisco 887VA for
ADSL2+ connections for our<br>
business clients (those that won’t pay from
proper Ethernet over<br>
Copper, and a Cisco 881), but with the NBN
FTTN now coming up, we<br>
</span>
are re-examining our preferred choice of
routers.____<br>
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<br>
Both support VDSL2, so no problem there for
NBN FTTN compatibility<br>
(hopefully), but the Cisco 867VA has the
added benefit of having<br>
BOTH VDSL2 WAN and gig WAN (Cisco 887VA only
has a single VDSL WAN<br>
port). The Cisco 867VAE also has an
additional gig LAN port, as well<br>
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as the standard 4 x 100Mbps LAN ports.____<br>
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<br>
I have always thought that the 867VAE was a
cheap alternative to the<br>
“proper” Cisco 887VA,and we always used the
Cisco 887VA so that we<br>
had the best option available, but am
interested to hear what other<br>
people’s thoughts are here. Especially
considering that the Cisco<br>
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867VAE is cheaper than the Cisco 887VA (not by
much though)____<br>
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