<div dir="ltr">'They' was Telstra :) Though TBH, telstra aren't even vaguely organised for FTTN as yet :) Neither is NBNco really.. I was only the second connection the NBN tech had done..<div><br></div><div>Yeah, vectoring is required. I couldn't get sync up at all for the first couple of hours after the NBN tech had been - until I went looking for updated firmware, and downloaded the vectoring enabled one. But two hours later it dropped and didn't come back.. </div><div><br></div><div>I called my 'pilot manager' at Telstra to ask if they could check the port state, and see if maybe it needed a reset or the like, and that was when he said NBNco didn't allow them to use non-approved modems, and having a non-approved modem had probably had the port shut down, no he couldn't tell me the make/model of an approved modem, and I'd just have to wait for my Telstra tech visit to have the Telstra-supplied modem installed.</div><div><br></div><div>So far Telstra's handling of the entire process has been fairly horrendous. They're not advising folks when they order that it will mean they have no phone or internet for 3+ weeks, if they don't have a spare in-place pair. They've also just taken everyone on the 'please let us know when NBN is available in our area' list in our suburb, and simply ordered FTTN for them with no warning - AND not made any obvious notes on their accounts - I know a couple of folks in our suburb now who've called Telstra with no ADSL sync, to be told it must be their modem, and to please go buy a new modem to try. And then after that didn't work, they've been told 'Oh, you phoned up to enquire about the NBN a few months ago, so we've gone ahead and connected you! You'll now be without any form of phone or internet for 3-4 weeks until your Telstra tech visit.'</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 October 2015 at 17:31, Paul Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 31/10/2015 4:23 PM, Damien Gardner
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<blockquote type="cite">If it's anything like FTTN, you have to use the
supplied router. I had FTTN installed a fortnight ago. I had sync
for two hours on a Draytek Vigor 130, then it dropped. Telstra
said third party devices aren't allowed, and the port will be
re-enabled when the Telstra tech comes to complete the install
with the Telstra-supplied modem. But annoying as they had told me
during ordering that I COULD use my own VDSL modem. </blockquote></span>
Who was "they"? I believe NBN aren't providing CPE, leaving the CPE
up to each RSP to sort out - so you might get "you can use your own
CPE" from an NBNco (sorry - an *<b>nbn</b>*) person.<br>
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I've heard Telstra as the RSP are insisting on using only their
supplied CPE (something about certification and testing), so if you
were ordering it through Telstra (retail or wholesale), you can't
use your own.<br>
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I believe the modem must support full vectoring, with a vectored
chipset compatible with the NBN's DSLAMs - un-vectored VDSL2
doesn't cut it, and detection of a VDSL2 CPE that doesn't include
vector capability will cause the DSLAM or management system to
disable the port, to prevent unvectored interference.<br>
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Just ignore that most MDU lines aren't long enough that vectored vs
un-vectored makes a significant difference.<br>
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I see the Draytek page says "With firmware version 3.7.5, Vigor130
supports VDSL2 Vectoring" - so perhaps check your firmware, and
whether vectoring support was enabled in the config, and give it
another try.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Paul.<br>
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<p>Damien Gardner Jnr<br>VK2TDG. Dip EE. GradIEAust<br><a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a> - <span><a href="http://www.rendrag.net/" target="_blank">http://www.rendrag.net/</a><u><br></u></span>--<br>We rode on the winds of the rising storm,<br> We ran to the sounds of thunder.<br>We danced among the lightning bolts,<br> and tore the world asunder</p></div></div>
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