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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hay Skeeve,<br>
       Is there a chance your building manager Said NBN but means TPG. 
      Our building manager was saying NBN to me when FirstPath (Hi
      Stephen) was installing and then he said NBN to me again when TPG
      started installing.  I have found that Building managers seem to
      use the word NBN for anything that is fast broadband.  Doesn't
      help that people like TPG's documentation says "NBN Style super
      fast broadband on it" . TPG tries to use a bit of smoke and
      mirrors to so there will be less push back from building managers
      and owners corps that are clueless. (who can blame them)<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Just a thought. <br>
      <br>
      Matt.<br>
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      On 30/10/2015 12:57 PM, Stephen Carter (FirstPath) wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Happy
            Friday all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            would agree, we see competitors saying that they are
            connecting soon but in fact they have no fibre in the street
            & or short term plans to do so. This practice really
            just results in OC’s becoming confused & less
            competition etc. FirstPath generally disregard these
            statements by other carriers and build regardless to deliver
            end user service. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As
            far as the “three addresses” issue is concerned this is
            common and hard to overcome as different information sources
            use different addresses: Owners, tenants, Land Titles,
            Google, Whereis etc … some even have the same buildings in
            different suburbs and postcodes. I have seen some with 8 or
            more addresses, if its any comfort it’s equally frustrating
            for carriers…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind
            regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4A4949">Stephen
                Carter</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">FirstPath<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Thorpe<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:42 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>;
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in
                Glebe NSW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Skeeve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Aside from direct information from nbn™ which
            seems to be hard to come by, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.mynbn.info/">http://www.mynbn.info/</a>
            collates most publicly available information to provide some
            sense of what activity is happening where.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">I’ve noticed a lot of existing developments
            around Glebe/Ultimo/CBD  being classified as “High Value
            Builds”, likely in response to TPG’s aggressive push to
            install FTTB wherever it can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">nbn’s product roadmap (<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf</a></a>)
            indicates that they don’t have HFC being part of an official
            product release until Q2 2016, so you will almost certainly
            be left with FTTN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">It’s starting to look like there’s a lot of
            overbuilding going on to secure these “high value” buildings
            whereas there are areas that are far down the 3 year plan
            that currently have nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:29 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I'm confused.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I live in a complex
                in Glebe which big and takes an entire block (over 100
                units).  We have 3 addresses on 3 sides of the block.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The complex has
                Telstra Bigpond Cable and it has worked fine for the 2
                years we've been here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I've heard from the
                building manager that NBN is about to be installed...
                and should be ready in a couple of weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">*blink* ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Firstly, the new
                rollout from NBN says Glebe area is 2018, but also says
                it is HFC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I assuming they
                aren't doing FTTH... the internal cabling costs on that
                in this place would be insane.... so I assume it is HFC
                upgrades of some kind?  I didn't think that NBNCo was
                actually upgrading anything in the complexes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Also, does anyone
                know if there is someone I can talk to at NBN about
                their rollout addressing... as while 2 of our address
                sides come up in the NBN lookup tool as coming soon, one
                of them doesn't... but it is all the same
                infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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