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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hay Skeeve,<br>
Is there a chance your building manager Said NBN but means TPG.
Our building manager was saying NBN to me when FirstPath (Hi
Stephen) was installing and then he said NBN to me again when TPG
started installing. I have found that Building managers seem to
use the word NBN for anything that is fast broadband. Doesn't
help that people like TPG's documentation says "NBN Style super
fast broadband on it" . TPG tries to use a bit of smoke and
mirrors to so there will be less push back from building managers
and owners corps that are clueless. (who can blame them)<br>
<br>
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Just a thought. <br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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On 30/10/2015 12:57 PM, Stephen Carter (FirstPath) wrote:<br>
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Friday all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
would agree, we see competitors saying that they are
connecting soon but in fact they have no fibre in the street
& or short term plans to do so. This practice really
just results in OC’s becoming confused & less
competition etc. FirstPath generally disregard these
statements by other carriers and build regardless to deliver
end user service. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As
far as the “three addresses” issue is concerned this is
common and hard to overcome as different information sources
use different addresses: Owners, tenants, Land Titles,
Google, Whereis etc … some even have the same buildings in
different suburbs and postcodes. I have seen some with 8 or
more addresses, if its any comfort it’s equally frustrating
for carriers…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind
regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#4A4949">Stephen
Carter</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">FirstPath<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Thorpe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in
Glebe NSW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Skeeve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Aside from direct information from nbn™ which
seems to be hard to come by, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mynbn.info/">http://www.mynbn.info/</a>
collates most publicly available information to provide some
sense of what activity is happening where.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">I’ve noticed a lot of existing developments
around Glebe/Ultimo/CBD being classified as “High Value
Builds”, likely in response to TPG’s aggressive push to
install FTTB wherever it can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">nbn’s product roadmap (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf</a></a>)
indicates that they don’t have HFC being part of an official
product release until Q2 2016, so you will almost certainly
be left with FTTN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">It’s starting to look like there’s a lot of
overbuilding going on to secure these “high value” buildings
whereas there are areas that are far down the 3 year plan
that currently have nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I'm confused.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I live in a complex
in Glebe which big and takes an entire block (over 100
units). We have 3 addresses on 3 sides of the block.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The complex has
Telstra Bigpond Cable and it has worked fine for the 2
years we've been here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I've heard from the
building manager that NBN is about to be installed...
and should be ready in a couple of weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">*blink* ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Firstly, the new
rollout from NBN says Glebe area is 2018, but also says
it is HFC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I assuming they
aren't doing FTTH... the internal cabling costs on that
in this place would be insane.... so I assume it is HFC
upgrades of some kind? I didn't think that NBNCo was
actually upgrading anything in the complexes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Also, does anyone
know if there is someone I can talk to at NBN about
their rollout addressing... as while 2 of our address
sides come up in the NBN lookup tool as coming soon, one
of them doesn't... but it is all the same
infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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