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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Shannon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Are you aware of anyone retailing the Layer-2 wholesale offering?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">TPG/Wondercom have effectively crippled the FTTB service for anyone requiring a static IP address meaning that any current retailers
offering the Layer-3 “managed” service are also in this segment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I understand this could be to avoid cannibalising the higher value fibre offerings available in many of these buildings, but it doesn’t
seem to make a lot of sense for TPG/Wondercom to be deploying this infrastructure in office buildings (as is the case) without offering services that incorporate features typically associated with a plan suited to a small business.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shannon Stadtmiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 1:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Joseph Goldman <joe@apcs.com.au>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Hey Everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">AAPT Wholesale, TPG Retail & Wondercom can all offer high speed FTTB VDSL/UBE to select buildings in Glebe, Ultimo & Pyrmont (aswell as other
suburbs nationally) with speeds ranging from 50mbps to 100mbps at an amazing price per month.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">The solution is rolling out a rapid rate so feel free to give the guys a call to see if your building qualifies – I use it myself at home in Pyrmont
– I was on pair gains getting 1.5mbps – I now get 79mbps down for a fraction of what I was paying with the incumbent
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 1:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW CRM:000084250<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-AU">Look up your address on mynbn.info it tends to identify what tech is expected.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">On 30/10/15 13:10, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I've asked him to escort me into our main MDF room..... it has a keypad lock, not a NMB key
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">But, the NBN Website actually does say we're in build... so I assume it is them... just doesn't say what technology.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Is that something that is query-able ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy - Internet Provider SME<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#20497D">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; Cell: +61(0)414 753 383<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Matt Perkins <<a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" target="_blank">matt@spectrum.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Is there a chance your building manager Said NBN but means TPG. Our building manager was saying NBN to me when FirstPath (Hi Stephen) was installing and then he said NBN to me again when TPG started installing. I have found that Building managers seem to
use the word NBN for anything that is fast broadband. Doesn't help that people like TPG's documentation says "NBN Style super fast broadband on it" . TPG tries to use a bit of smoke and mirrors to so there will be less push back from building managers and
owners corps that are clueless. (who can blame them)<br>
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On 30/10/2015 12:57 PM, Stephen Carter (FirstPath) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I would agree, we see competitors saying that they are connecting soon but in fact they
have no fibre in the street & or short term plans to do so. This practice really just results in OC’s becoming confused & less competition etc. FirstPath generally disregard these statements by other carriers and build regardless to deliver end user service.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">As far as the “three addresses” issue is concerned this is common and hard to overcome
as different information sources use different addresses: Owners, tenants, Land Titles, Google, Whereis etc … some even have the same buildings in different suburbs and postcodes. I have seen some with 8 or more addresses, if its any comfort it’s equally frustrating
for carriers…</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Thorpe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Skeeve,</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Aside from direct information from nbn™ which seems to be hard to come by,
<a href="http://www.mynbn.info/">http://www.mynbn.info/</a> collates most publicly available information to provide some sense of what activity is happening where.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’ve noticed a lot of existing developments around Glebe/Ultimo/CBD being classified as “High Value
Builds”, likely in response to TPG’s aggressive push to install FTTB wherever it can.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">nbn’s product roadmap (<a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf</a>)
indicates that they don’t have HFC being part of an official product release until Q2 2016, so you will almost certainly be left with FTTN.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It’s starting to look like there’s a lot of overbuilding going on to secure these “high value” buildings
whereas there are areas that are far down the 3 year plan that currently have nothing.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:29 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe NSW</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I live in a complex in Glebe which big and takes an entire block (over 100 units). We have 3 addresses on 3 sides of the block.<span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The complex has Telstra Bigpond Cable and it has worked fine for the 2 years we've been here.<span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I've heard from the building manager that NBN is about to be installed... and should be ready in a couple of weeks.<span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Firstly, the new rollout from NBN says Glebe area is 2018, but also says it is HFC.<span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I assuming they aren't doing FTTH... the internal cabling costs on that in this place would be insane.... so I assume it is HFC upgrades of some kind? I didn't think that NBNCo
was actually upgrading anything in the complexes?<span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Also, does anyone know if there is someone I can talk to at NBN about their rollout addressing... as while 2 of our address sides come up in the NBN lookup tool as coming soon,
one of them doesn't... but it is all the same infrastructure.<span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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