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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Your spot on Nick. This is becoming
daily explain for me now. It devalues our offerings quite a bit.
Still I remember people saying while would i need more then 56k
what's the use of ADSL<br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
<br>
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On 30/10/2015 1:18 PM, Nick Brown wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It’s
not just limited to building managers, NBN is quickly
becoming synonymous with fibre to the average punter.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My
accountant was recently telling me how it was unfair that
the office next door to his had just received FTTP and how
he was preparing to complain to NBN, before I pointed out
that it was our network…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#999999">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#0069AA">Nick Brown</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#A0A2A4">
| Carrier Relations</span></b><b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#A0A2A4"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#0069AA">M</span></b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#A0A2A4">: +61 4 3203 8015 </span><b><span
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#A0A2A4">: +61 2 4910 1015 </span><b><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#0069AA">E</span></b><span
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<span style="color:#A0A2A4">nick.brown@vocus.com.au</span></a>
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1300 88 99 88 or +61 2 8999 8999 </span><b><span
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vocus.com.au"><span
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Vocus House, Level 1, 189 Miller Street, North Sydney, NSW 2060, Australia<br>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Perkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 1:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in
Glebe NSW CRM:000084250<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hay Skeeve,<br>
Is there a chance your building manager Said NBN but means
TPG. Our building manager was saying NBN to me when
FirstPath (Hi Stephen) was installing and then he said NBN
to me again when TPG started installing. I have found that
Building managers seem to use the word NBN for anything that
is fast broadband. Doesn't help that people like TPG's
documentation says "NBN Style super fast broadband on it" .
TPG tries to use a bit of smoke and mirrors to so there will
be less push back from building managers and owners corps
that are clueless. (who can blame them)<br>
<br>
<br>
Just a thought. <br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 30/10/2015 12:57 PM, Stephen Carter (FirstPath) wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Happy
Friday all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
would agree, we see competitors saying that they are
connecting soon but in fact they have no fibre in the
street & or short term plans to do so. This practice
really just results in OC’s becoming confused & less
competition etc. FirstPath generally disregard these
statements by other carriers and build regardless to
deliver end user service.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As
far as the “three addresses” issue is concerned this is
common and hard to overcome as different information
sources use different addresses: Owners, tenants, Land
Titles, Google, Whereis etc … some even have the same
buildings in different suburbs and postcodes. I have seen
some with 8 or more addresses, if its any comfort it’s
equally frustrating for carriers…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kind
regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4A4949">Stephen
Carter</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">FirstPath</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Thorpe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a></a>>;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in
Glebe NSW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Skeeve,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Aside from direct information from nbn™ which
seems to be hard to come by,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.mynbn.info/">http://www.mynbn.info/</a>
collates most publicly available information to provide
some sense of what activity is happening where.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">I’ve noticed a lot of existing developments
around Glebe/Ultimo/CBD being classified as “High Value
Builds”, likely in response to TPG’s aggressive push to
install FTTB wherever it can.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">nbn’s product roadmap (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/Integrated-Product-Roadmap.pdf</a></a>)
indicates that they don’t have HFC being part of an
official product release until Q2 2016, so you will almost
certainly be left with FTTN.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">It’s starting to look like there’s a lot of
overbuilding going on to secure these “high value”
buildings whereas there are areas that are far down the 3
year plan that currently have nothing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB">Jonathan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 30 October 2015 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NBN Rollout Confusion in Glebe
NSW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I'm confused.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I live in a
complex in Glebe which big and takes an entire block
(over 100 units). We have 3 addresses on 3 sides of
the block.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The complex has
Telstra Bigpond Cable and it has worked fine for the 2
years we've been here.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I've heard from
the building manager that NBN is about to be
installed... and should be ready in a couple of weeks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">*blink* ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Firstly, the new
rollout from NBN says Glebe area is 2018, but also
says it is HFC.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I assuming they
aren't doing FTTH... the internal cabling costs on
that in this place would be insane.... so I assume it
is HFC upgrades of some kind? I didn't think that
NBNCo was actually upgrading anything in the
complexes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Also, does anyone
know if there is someone I can talk to at NBN about
their rollout addressing... as while 2 of our address
sides come up in the NBN lookup tool as coming soon,
one of them doesn't... but it is all the same
infrastructure.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-GB">...Skeeve
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