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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/10/2015 12:19 PM, Damien Gardner
      Jnr wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 13 October 2015 at 12:16, Peter
            Fern <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                class="">On 10/13/2015 12:07, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:<br>
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                > It occurs to me that if folks were
                latency-sensitive, it would be a<br>
                > simple matter to find an overseas company who has
                .au endpoints?<br>
                > There are plenty around -  ExpressVPN, PureVPN,
                BlackVPN, Overplay,<br>
                > and VPNSecure come to mind quickly.<br>
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              </span>But then they're subject to data retention...<br>
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            <div>How do you figure that? A US company (especially one
              who is only providing VPN services, so is not an ISP) is
              not subject to data retention..?<br>
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    Are you sure about that?<br>
    I'm not convinced the nationality of the company is relevent. A US
    company that provides a VPN service (a relevent service) from
    infrastructure it owns or operates physically located in Australia,
    would be subject to data retention requirements for that server in
    Australia <b>and arguably every other server on the globe that
      provides the VPN service.<br>
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    </b>Look for those listed VPN services that quickly come to mind to
    silently drop their nodes in Australia, if they haven't already.<b><br>
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    Paul.<br>
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