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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/10/2015 12:47 PM, Peter Fern
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/2015 12:45, Paul Brooks
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/10/2015 12:19 PM, Damien
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 13 October 2015 at 12:16,
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> It occurs to me that if folks were
latency-sensitive, it would be a<br>
> simple matter to find an overseas company who
has .au endpoints?<br>
> There are plenty around - ExpressVPN, PureVPN,
BlackVPN, Overplay,<br>
> and VPNSecure come to mind quickly.<br>
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</span>But then they're subject to data retention...<br>
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<div>How do you figure that? A US company (especially
one who is only providing VPN services, so is not an
ISP) is not subject to data retention..?<br>
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Are you sure about that?<br>
I'm not convinced the nationality of the company is relevent. A
US company that provides a VPN service (a relevent service) from
infrastructure it owns or operates physically located in
Australia, would be subject to data retention requirements for
that server in Australia <b>and arguably every other server on
the globe that provides the VPN service.</b><br>
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Nationality is not relevant, but unless you qualify as a Carrier
or CSP you're not eligible.<br>
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...and you qualify as a CSP by providing a communication service -
or even by just reselling somebody else's communication service. Or
are you arguing that a VPN isn't a communication service? The
definition of what makes you a CSP in the Telco Act is fairly broad
- and you don't have the luxury of self-declaring whether you are or
not.<br>
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Paul.<br>
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