<div dir="ltr">NMS is a great tool!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Christopher Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cpollock@twitch.tv" target="_blank">cpollock@twitch.tv</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times - you cannot be a network engineer in 2015 without being a developer. Not even just a coder, an actual developer.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I can't even count the number of people who've told me they'd buy Apex for their NMS alone. It's the kind of thing that you could throw tens of thousands of development-hours into and still not achieve the result you're looking for, because ultimately you need someone who intimately understands the network /and/ the software to do it. And there aren't many of those.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">You could spent $10m on developers and still not get what Apex has.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">$5.8m, and it comes with a free network? Bargain. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#666666" style="font-size:13.3333px"><font style="font-family:Helvetica">--</font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#666666" style="font-size:13.3333px"><font style="font-family:Helvetica">Christopher Pollock </font></font><font color="#999999" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"> </font><font color="#cccccc" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica">| </font><font color="#999999" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"> </font><b style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:13.3333px"><font color="#674ea7"><a href="http://Twitch.tv" target="_blank"><font color="#1155cc"><span style="font-size:13.3333px">Twitc</span></font>h.tv</a></font></b><font color="#999999" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"><a href="http://www.twitch.tv" target="_blank"> </a> </font><font color="#cccccc" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica">| </font><font color="#666666" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"> Network Development Engineer</font><font style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"><font color="#666666"> </font><font style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"> </font><font color="#c0c0c0">| </font><font color="#666666"> <a href="tel:415-361-3042" value="+14153613042" target="_blank">415-361-3042</a></font></font><font style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"><font color="#666666"> </font><font style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"> </font><font color="#c0c0c0">|</font><font style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"> </font><font color="#666666"> Skype–christopherpollock</font></font><font style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica"><font color="#666666"> </font><font style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"> </font><font color="#c0c0c0">|</font><font style="color:rgb(102,102,102)"> </font><font color="#666666"> T</font></font><font color="#666666" style="font-size:13.3333px;font-family:Helvetica">witter–chhopsky</font><div style="font-size:13.3333px"><div><font color="#666666"><br></font></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:Helvetica"><b><font color="#666666">Twitch in the News:</font></b></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:Helvetica"><font color="#6600cc"><font color="#6600cc"><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57369949-501465/play-video-games-for-a-living-twitchtv-is-making-it-happen/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank"><font color="#6600cc">CBS News</font></a><b> </b></font><b> </b></font><font color="#666666"> "For a video game lover, like myself, the site is addictive. "</font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Cameron Ferdinands <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron@jferdinands.com" target="_blank">cameron@jferdinands.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">From: Cameron Ferdinands <<a href="mailto:cameron@jferdinands.com" target="_blank">cameron@jferdinands.com</a>><br>Date: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:56 PM<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Superloop to buy APEXnetworks for $5.8m<br>To: Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>><br>Cc: Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>>, <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br></div><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div dir="ltr">Congrats Ryan! Well deserved!<div><br></div><div>APEXnetworks has some AMAZING software on the back-end of things and front-end for channel partners, and anyone that's used it before can vouch for that. That alone would be a major competitive advantage for Superloop, unlike a lot of other providers still stuck in the dark ages of ordering/provisioning/billing/support etc. </div><div><br></div><div>There seems to be a similar theme of software + service provider, is it too late to start the 'ISP 2.0' buzzword?</div><div><br></div><div>Before anyone chimes in with 'Telstra has done this for years' can you really tell me that ordering ULL's with an ISDN line was easy? I'd take ordering a VXC via a RESTful API any day.</div><div><br></div><div>The future for Network Engineers is code! Not only will we be able to configure our devices, but order our services too, it's an exciting time to be alive.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 October 2015 at 12:59, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I saw it... I am still trying to process it. I am not sure how the two businesses align... seems like a strange move for Superloop.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D"><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - The ISP Guy - Internet Provider SME</p></font></font><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D"><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; Cell: <a href="tel:%2B61%280%29414%20753%20383" value="+61414753383" target="_blank">+61(0)414 753 383</a></p></font></font></font><div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><font color="#20497d">Skype: skeeve; </font><span style="color:rgb(32,73,125)">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font></font></div><div><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="verdana, sans-serif" size="1"><p style="margin:0px;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div style="font-size:12.8px"><div style="font-size:12.8px"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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