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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">“</span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6E6E79;letter-spacing:.1pt;background:white">21 September 2015”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/media-releases/nbn-launches-fibre-to-the-node-technology.html">http://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/media-releases/nbn-launches-fibre-to-the-node-technology.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6E6E79;letter-spacing:.1pt;background:white">“Our FTTN technology delivers fast broadband via fibre-optic cable that runs to a neighbourhood node/cabinet and from there using the copper
 lines to deliver high-speed broadband ultimately via VDSL technology.”</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I understand there is the multi/mixed technology solution, i.e. cable and other techs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Mark Smith [mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 2 October 2015 8:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] Wow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 2 Oct 2015 7:34 am, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Was I was trying to get at, which obviously I didn’t do a good enough job of was.<br>
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>  <br>
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> It looks like the plan is to roll out copper to repair old copper without looking at or re-evaluating each location.  The mandate is FTTN
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<p>No it isn't.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>>and some mouthing that they will do fibre to the premise maybe or on a pay – per – install situation.<br>
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> Wouldn’t you  want to re consider each location based upon it merits instead of coming out with a blanket statement.<br>
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>  <br>
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> Also my read on Telstra pulling out of the tender off to build infrastructure says to me they don’t want to touch the copper network at any cost … But that’s me being a pessimist.<br>
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> A<br>
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>  <br>
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> From: Mark Smith [mailto:<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@gmail.com">markzzzsmith@gmail.com</a>]
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> Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2015 6:23 PM<br>
> To: Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>><br>
> Cc: <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Wow<br>
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>  <br>
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> On 1 Oct 2015 17:44, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://delimiter.com.au/2015/10/01/will-nbn-co-be-rolling-brand-new-copper-in-some-places-to-deal-with-fttn-yes-it-will/">
https://delimiter.com.au/2015/10/01/will-nbn-co-be-rolling-brand-new-copper-in-some-places-to-deal-with-fttn-yes-it-will/</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Not sure how true this is....<br>
> ><br>
> > I suppose replacing 1 pair of  copper might be okay, but at what point it is cheaper to go fibre.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> This list should try to be objective, which means discounting subjective arguments that trigger emotional responses from articles such as those that appear on Delimiter.<br>
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> If copper is inherently bad, why don't we have fibre to the desk? Perhaps the objective reality is that copper is good when it is both adequate and cost effective?<br>
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> ><br>
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