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        On 24 Sep 2015, at 23:36, Chad Kelly <<a
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      <blockquote type="cite"><span>On 9/24/2015 11:13 PM, Mark Newton
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          <blockquote type="cite"><span>CPK Web Services does not have
              an IP range or a network for that matter, as I have
              already stated, both publicly on social media and in our
              DRIP we have written agreements in place with Micron21 who
              take responsibility for the network and related stuff.</span><br>
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          <blockquote type="cite"><span>But then we have the over the
              top services such as email.</span><br>
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        <blockquote type="cite"><span>So why are you even talking to
            them at all? The legislation doesn’t cover you.</span><br>
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        <span>This is why it should be moved from the AGD to the
          Department of communications, as the AGD advice varies from
          what most industry people have told me.</span><br>
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      The AGD advice doesn't matter. The legislation does. And it seems
      that you aren't talking to a lawyer about it and, perhaps, haven't
      even read it yourself.
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        <blockquote type="cite"><span>Which is that providers who don't
            operate their own network are not covered by this, but if
            that is the case, it would leave out a number of providers
            who co-locate servers in DCs that provide them with network
            connectivity.</span><br>
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        Yes! If they're not carriers or ISPs, they are "left out."
        That's what the law passed by the Parliament says.</div>
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      <div><i>"Get a lawyer, son, hope you get a real good one."</i></div>
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    Given that the legislation has already been passed and the agencies
    involved, including the AFP it is a lot easier just to give them the
    information they want.<br>
    They have enough flexibility within the legislation to allow time
    for implementation I just personally think that the Communications
    Department would be better off handling this stuff, but given the
    agencies all communicate with each other they would be well aware of
    the situation anyway. <br>
    They do include content providers in the legislation as well. <br>
    Regards Chad.<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Chad Kelly 
Manager 
CPK Web Services 
web <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.cpkws.com.au">www.cpkws.com.au</a>
phone 03 9013 4853</pre>
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