<p dir="ltr">Looks like similar augment that climate change deniers make. The data is flawed so don't believe it. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I'd probably agree that every method of measurement has its strengths and weaknesses. </p>
<p dir="ltr">The common theme still exists, what is the 'indicator' of performance, not will my packets reach its destination 99.999% time with +/- 1% jitter.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 15 Sep 2015 12:37 pm, "Rob Wise" <<a href="mailto:rob@wonk.org">rob@wonk.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Internet speed metrics derived from a single type of traffic may not tell a complete story of the performance of a particular ISP.  For example, how would the average punter know if the ISP was giving priority to Netflix or YouTube streams at the expense of other types of traffic to get a good score?</div><div><br></div><div>I contributed to some research on this topic in 2013 that was presented at NANOG 60.  As few things have changed since then, but externally measuring the speed of ISPs is still difficult (refer to ACCC thread from the other day).</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/tuesday.general.bowman.commercialfactors.51.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.nanog.org/sites/default/files/tuesday.general.bowman.commercialfactors.51.pdf</a></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxZjlUcoiI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXxZjlUcoiI</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Rob</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 at 17:31 Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Given most take Netflix (and Google) on peering, would you guys agree that these graphs are more a reflection on the backhaul network/provisioning/scale of the provider?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>...Skeeve</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)"><br>--</p><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Skeeve Stevens - <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">The ISP Guy - Internet Provider SME</span></p></font></font><font color="#002060" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Email: <a href="mailto:skeeve@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve@theispguy.com</a> ; <span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Cell: <a href="tel:%2B61%280%29414%20753%20383" value="+61414753383" target="_blank">+61(0)414 753 383</a></span></p></font></font><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#20497d" face="Calibri">Skype: skeeve; </font><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(32,73,125);font-family:Calibri">Blog: <a href="http://theispguy.com/" target="_blank">TheISPGuy.com</a> ; Facebook: </span><font color="#20497d" face="Calibri" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/theispguy" target="_blank">TheISPGuy</a></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#002060"><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="3"><p style="margin:0px;font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(32,73,125)">Linkedin: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Expert360: </span><a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Profile</a></p></font></font></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Michael Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mksmith@netflix.com" target="_blank">mksmith@netflix.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">We changed the format on the webpage, so use this instead.
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/country/australia/" target="_blank">http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/country/australia/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Mike</div></div>
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