<div dir="ltr">Paul,<div><br></div><div>Unfortunately we can't have facts about whether or not there would or would not have been costs blowouts under Labor because destiny did not choose this path for us. But he did clear identify there was a 10% blowout when Labor were in power. However, we can measure the performance of the Coalition based on the promises they made when lobbying during the previous election versus their actual performance. This is exactly what what Turnbull did versus Labor, and I would argue he did very successfully. I feel he made Labor look like they were not doing the job well. Now I think he is making Labor look like they were doing a fabulous job.</div><div><br></div><div>When I take into account what the Coalition promised us versus what they have delivered, I agree with the article completely.</div><div><br></div><div>In my opinion:</div><div>- The NBN is not even remotely close to being able to deliver at least 25Mbps to the population by the end of 2016. I would be astonished if they achieved it. Not sooner.</div><div>- The cost of implementing the MTM network no longer presents value. To spend that much on a network that will be due for significant upgrade work at its completion seems wasteful. Can NBNco remain viable? I want to call it LBN.</div><div><br></div><div>I believe if Turnbull from pre-election 2013 was able to contest Turbull from pre-election 2016 (starting now) he would have an absolute field day. I pray that Labor can effectively portray what I see as an absolute NBN failure on the part of the Coalition.</div><div><br></div><div>I also think Turbull would have been excellent driving a FTTP NBN policy. I am not sure if he came up with the MTM. I try to believe the policy was forced upon him.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 September 2015 at 13:19, Paul Wilkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Karl,<br></div>Thanks for the interesting reply.<br><br></div>I think it's unfair to compare the NBN's actual performance under Turnbull, with NBN's initial FTTP estimates. I think it's fairly partisan to suggest that there wouldn't have been cost blowouts under Labor. For one thing, the exchange rate has moved considerably.<br><br></div>Kind regards<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Paul Wilkins<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 September 2015 at 12:39, Karl Auer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au" target="_blank">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 12:12 +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote:<br>
> Those are Prof Rod Tucker (of University Melbourne)'s views and figures. He<br>
> wanted $43bn from Stephen Conroy back in 2009 for a FTTN network. This was<br>
> when the AUD was trading at USD$1.15. His is a fairly partisan position.<br>
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</span>To assume someone is partisan because they argue for one position or<br>
another is very poor form indeed, unless you can demonstrate their bias.<br>
And even if someone IS partisan, they may still be right, even if for<br>
the wrong reasons. That's the problem with ad hominem attacks - they<br>
don't address the facts.<br>
<br>
A position that is argued from supportable facts is not partisan unless<br>
other facts are being deliberately ignored. If you have a problem with<br>
an article, you need to attack the statements made in it, either by<br>
showing that the facts being used are not true, by showing that<br>
information the writer had access to is being ignored, or by showing<br>
that the facts as given do not support the conclusions drawn.<br>
<br>
So - is the author wrong? If so, how so?<br>
<br>
Regards, K.<br>
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