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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If I read it correctly Rod Tuckers suggestion that the new NBN is to cost roughly similar to the Labours build estimate, when obviously an enormous portion of the build cost is withdrawn by no longer requiring the last mile build to every single home on every single occasion is frankly embarrassing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-P<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Wilkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 9 September 2015 1:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] A look at the coalitions NBN so far<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Karl,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks for the interesting reply.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I think it's unfair to compare the NBN's actual performance under Turnbull, with NBN's initial FTTP estimates. I think it's fairly partisan to suggest that there wouldn't have been cost blowouts under Labor. For one thing, the exchange rate has moved considerably.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Kind regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Paul Wilkins<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9 September 2015 at 12:39, Karl Auer <<a href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au" target="_blank">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 12:12 +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote:<br>> Those are Prof Rod Tucker (of University Melbourne)'s views and figures. He<br>> wanted $43bn from Stephen Conroy back in 2009 for a FTTN network. This was<br>> when the AUD was trading at USD$1.15. His is a fairly partisan position.<br><br>To assume someone is partisan because they argue for one position or<br>another is very poor form indeed, unless you can demonstrate their bias.<br>And even if someone IS partisan, they may still be right, even if for<br>the wrong reasons. That's the problem with ad hominem attacks - they<br>don't address the facts.<br><br>A position that is argued from supportable facts is not partisan unless<br>other facts are being deliberately ignored. If you have a problem with<br>an article, you need to attack the statements made in it, either by<br>showing that the facts being used are not true, by showing that<br>information the writer had access to is being ignored, or by showing<br>that the facts as given do not support the conclusions drawn.<br><br>So - is the author wrong? If so, how so?<br><br>Regards, K.<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><span class=hoenzb>--</span><br><span class=hoenzb>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span><br><span class=hoenzb>Karl Auer (<a href="mailto:kauer@biplane.com.au">kauer@biplane.com.au</a>)</span><br><span class=hoenzb><a href="http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer" target="_blank">http://www.biplane.com.au/kauer</a></span><br><span class=hoenzb><a href="http://twitter.com/kauer389" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/kauer389</a></span><br><br><span class=hoenzb>GPG fingerprint: 3C41 82BE A9E7 99A1 B931 5AE7 7638 0147 2C3C 2AC4</span><br><span class=hoenzb>Old fingerprint: EC67 61E2 C2F6 EB55 884B E129 072B 0AF0 72AA 9882</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>