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      VMXNET3 is only supported in the "Cloud Hosted Router" version,
      which currently isn't suitable for production use (limited to
      1Mbps). VMXNET3 (and the other virtualisation drivers) are *NOT*
      included in the standard x86 version, and probably never will be.<br>
      <br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=98981">http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=98981</a><br>
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      Regards,<br>
      Matt.<br>
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      On 24/08/2015 5:45 p.m., Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:<br>
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            I was on 29.2 ….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            YOU<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Keen<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 24 August 2015 3:38 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast
                but would you dare run your core network on it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US">VMXNet 3 is supported as of 6.31 (14<sup>th</sup>
            Aug Release)<br>
            <br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=99531">http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=99531</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">Matthew Keen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">Senior Network Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">Comwire IT Pty Ltd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 24 August 2015 2:48 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast
                but would you dare run your core network on it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Got
            6 of the
          </span>CCR1036-8G-2Splus<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Same points as below<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Limit to 1Gb/s tcp stream, but with
          multistreams or udp I have pushed up to 9.8Gbs<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">BFD issue<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I like them, I would like for them to make
          the RouterOS VM;s vmware aware and use the vmxnet3 nics, then
          I could be really happy with Mikrotek.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">A<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, 24 August 2015 3:01 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Looks like a total beast
                but would you dare run your core network on it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Mikrotik's
          have been discussed for a while - plenty are using at the
          edge, some are using at the core. I personally use
          CCR1036-8G-2Splus at my core, which use the same CPU
          architecture as the 1072 just less cores, and different
          interface options.<br>
          <br>
          I haven't had much issue with them, but I also pick and choose
          my software releases, and don't configure new (or unused)
          features on production to avoid bugs.<br>
          <br>
          I run 2 with as much active-active and failover redundancy as
          I can, and the cost of the 2 ($3k~) still far cheaper than a
          couple of Cisco routers for my networks ~500mbit / 200kpps
          throughput. (1 router is currently doing most of that work
          sitting at 10-15% CPU with conntracking + firewall mangle
          rules + about 10 simple queues)<br>
          <br>
          The biggest problem is multi-threaded use for some of the
          important processes in them, BGP being the main one, and
          single TCP stream being the other. They each seem to be
          limited to a single core at a time so importing full tables
          and updates/withdraws can take a bit to propagate in the route
          table. TCP single stream only seems to be able to get to
          1gbps, again seems to be a single core restriction.<br>
          <br>
          ROSv7 is meant to fix a lot of this but still in alpha stage,
          no public betas even heard of yet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 24/08/15 14:48, James Mcintosh wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    href="http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus"><span
                      style="background:white"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus">http://routerboard.com/CCR1072-1G-8Splus</a></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
                  style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">With
                  equivalent gear from Cisco costing 10x or more might
                  it be worth taking a chance?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span
                  style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">If
                  not what else similar is this alternative. I don't
                  mind paying a premium for quality but 10x is a bit
                  ridiculous...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
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