<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>My statement is my option of how customers within the industry would behave and is by no means collusion or suggestion that the industry should collude. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I'm not sure it's fair to cast such a broad brush. Happy for the thread to stop but a bit puzzled at the personal attack. </div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Matt</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><br><div><br></div><div>-- </div><div>/* Matt Perkins</div><div> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.</div><div> Office 1300 133 299 <a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au">matt@spectrum.com.au</a></div><div> Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000</div><div> SIP <a href="mailto:1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au">1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au</a></div><div> Google Talk <a href="mailto:MattAPerkins@gmail.com">MattAPerkins@gmail.com</a></div><div> PGP/GNUPG Public Key can be found at <a href="http://pgp.mit.edu">http://pgp.mit.edu</a></div><div>*/</div></div><div><br>On 18 Aug 2015, at 9:49 AM, Geordie Guy <<a href="mailto:elomis@gmail.com">elomis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">"<span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">In the end unless the entire industry does it. People will use it as another commercial point of difference"</span><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">Yeah look I wouldn't talk about this in this way and I think it'd be a good idea if a mod steps in.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">G</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jacob Gardiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jacob@jacobgardiner.com" target="_blank">jacob@jacobgardiner.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">What, you’re not allowed to talk about your costs?</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Please. This is nowhere near collusion.</div><div><div class="h5"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div> <div><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"><br></div></div> <br><p style="color:#000">On 17 August 2015 at 3:41:59 pm, John Lindsay (<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite"><span><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div></div><div>
<div>As a former Regulatory and Corporate Affairs Manager
I think I should warn that this is dangerously close to industry
collusion and shouldn’t be discussed.</div>
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<div>On 17 Aug 2015, at 12:02 pm, Andrew Kitchen
<<a href="mailto:a.kitchen@xi.com.au" target="_blank">a.kitchen@xi.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>I know when Andrew Yager ran the Data Retention
workshop in Sydney recently towards the end and this was only
touched on briefly about putting a Data Retention type of charge on
end users accounts to help cover the out of pocket costs that we
all face. I haven’t seen any further information about this
out in the media so I am just seeing what the feeling is amongst
the industry and if anyone has any ideas about how to calculate
charges etc.</div>
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<div>I feel that some kind of charges has to be past on to
users as the out of pocket expense to the industry is too high for
us to wear and needs to be recovered but it would be nice for the
industry as a whole to approach the together rather than some pass
it on and others wear it.</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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<div>Andrew Kitchen</div>
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