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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I feel jealous ... I lost my final grandparent in 1990!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 July 2015 7:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Apple say "biasing towards IPv6 is now beneficial for our customers"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I was at my grandparents the other day who are on a Bigpond NBN bundle with a Telstra provided router etc, they were running native IPv6 much to my surprise! They certainly wouldn't have requested it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 14/07/15 19:08, Mike Biber wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Telstra have been offering IPv6 to their commercial customers starting in September 2012...just nothing for BigPond or mobiles. Been in the works for years but it'll happen I guess. Hopefully not too far away.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mike Biber<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>Sent from Mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-------- Original message --------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>From: Mark Newton <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Date:14/07/2015 6:31 PM (GMT+10:00) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To: Robert Hudson <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Apple say "biasing towards IPv6 is now beneficial for our customers" <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>On 14 Jul 2015, at 6:25 pm, Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com">hudrob@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 14 July 2015 at 18:07, Mark Newton <<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The carriers are already on board.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In some countries, absolutely. But here in Australia, Telstra are still unable to offer IPv6 over their 3G or 4G networks (I have this on good authority as a partner who may be putting tens if not hundreds of thousands of end-points onto their networks), and my understanding is that Optus and Vodafone are in no better a position.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>See Sunny Yeung’s presentations at recent APRICOTs and APNICs: They’re on to it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><a href="https://2015.apricot.net/program#speakers/sunnyyeung">https://2015.apricot.net/program#speakers/sunnyyeung</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><a href="https://conference.apnic.net/data/37/yeung.-s-ipv6-in-telstra-apipv6tf-apnic37_1392858273.pdf">https://conference.apnic.net/data/37/yeung.-s-ipv6-in-telstra-apipv6tf-apnic37_1392858273.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><a href="https://2014.apricot.net/program#/session/66936">https://2014.apricot.net/program#/session/66936</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'> - mark<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>