<div dir="ltr">Andrew,<div><br></div><div>As you know, this is a ULL which has voltage but no tone on the line, otherwise the guys would have gone out and found it and patched it through. I also don't have a butt-phone or voltage tester.</div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Peace</span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri"><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Shanti</span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri"><br></b></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Shanti Korporaal - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">2014 Anthill 30Under30</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:shanti@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">shanti<font color="#1155cc">@eintellegonetworks.com</font></a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font><p style="font-size:13px;margin:0px;font-family:Calibri"><font color="#222222">Phone: 1300 239 038; Direct: +61 (0)2 8091 1224 Cell: </font><font>+61 (0)42</font>3 045 588 <font color="#222222">; </font><a style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">skype://shantikorporaal</a></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;margin:0px;font-family:Calibri"><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/shantikorporaal" target="_blank"><font color="#1155cc">linkedin.</font><font color="#1155cc">com/in/</font>shantikorporaal</a></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;margin:0px;font-family:Calibri"><a href="http://twitter.com/CloudGirlAU" target="_blank">twitter.com/CloudGirlAU</a> ; blog: <a href="http://www.cloudgirl.com.au" target="_blank"><font color="#1155cc">www.c</font>loudgirl.com.au</a></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:13px;margin:0px;font-family:Calibri"><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br></p></font></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><div><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-size:13px">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></div><div style="color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Consulting</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4 Brokering</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Yager <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew@rwts.com.au" target="_blank">andrew@rwts.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I know you asked for off-list replies, but am curious to explore the "issue behind". We see this quite often with Optus ULLs. Shanti - most Open licensed telecoms specialists can come in with a butt-phone/line finding tool and find a ringing pair.</div><div><br></div><div>As a general question; what strategies do other providers use to help reduce the customer pain for the connection of these lines? (As an aside, we've noted that Telstra seems to have changed their policy for their MDF/Business line connections in that it will always be sent to the field for connection now? But this doesn't help with Optus ULLs)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Andrew</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 July 2015 at 10:14, Shanti Korporaal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shanti@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">shanti@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>I have a new Optus ULL line installed at our admin office in Glebe.</div><div><br></div><div>Telstra allocated 'in place' pair details to Optus and they provisioned the service.</div><div><br></div><div>But, there was no cabling in place in the MDF and Telstra can't tell anyone what the pair details are, although we might have an idea.</div><div><br></div><div>We've logged a DoA fault, but it is going to be the 21st before someone can come out and tag it.</div><div><br></div><div>I need someone who can find the phone line (ULL) on the lead-in in our MDF and patch it through.</div><div><br></div><div>There is also no book/records in the MDF that we can find.</div><div><br></div><div>I realise this isn't networks but I'm hoping someone here might know someone or have the skills to do this.<br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Please contact me off-list and let me know rates. 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