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here entirely-- you weren't collecting the correct information and/or
not validating it properly.. The issue at hand is having your
credentials published publicly, un-obfuscated for the world to see--
just so you can have a domain name.<br>
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To be clear:<br>
- I have no issue with them collecting the information<br>
- I understand the need for registry to collect the information and for
them to ensure it's correct.<br>
- I understand that allowing certain people to hide under the guise of
anonymity can be harmful.<br>
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What I do have an issue with-- is that collected information being shown
on the public internet to be gleefully scraped, not just for spam
purposes, but also identity theft etc.<br>
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If we're still in a world where we must deliver a piece of dead tree to
make things "official", why doesn't the policy mandate that any
registrar offering domain privacy also accept written correspondence on
behalf of the registrant and forward it in a way that complies with
whatever legal requirement you have.<br>
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-Shane<br>
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I think it is when you're registering a
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Badly quoted / formatted response aside, Mark has it here.<br>
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Early in my career I worked heldpesk and 'abuse@' for a 'free' ISP.
The operations of that ISP were funded by interconnect revenues and
the bottom line was that if you could get online once (borrow a
dialup, or use a library etc), you could sign up for an internet
account that would work immediately, with no validation of the
details supplied as part of the sign-up process.<br>
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You can imagine how much abuse the service saw, when people realised
there was essentially no accountability for your actions when you
could be fully anonymised (at least, until the account was reviewed
for obvious anonymised user-data or reported for abusive behavior,
and the mighty whack-a-mole act began).<br>
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Having spent a lot of my career (then, and since) dealing with abuse
originating from parts of the Internet which don't care to be
accountable (through anonymised domain name registrations, ISP's too
large to be able to cope with the number of complaints they get so
they ignore them entirely, parts of the world where you know that a
complaint from a small nation in the south pacific aren't worth the
time it takes to read them, etc) I don't believe that anonymous
domain name registrations are necessary.<br>
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Mark.<br>
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