<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Shane Short <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shane@short.id.au" target="_blank">shane@short.id.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">That's a different issue
here entirely-- you weren't collecting the correct information and/or
not validating it properly.. The issue at hand is having your
credentials published publicly, un-obfuscated for the world to see--
just so you can have a domain name.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Exactly. Leaving aside the thoroughly debunked idea that anonymisation leads to abuse, there are no purely anonymous domain registrations. The information is always accounted for, complete with annual demands for updates, and is available to anyone with a genuine reason by going through a regulated process. This proposal is to discard that.</div><div> </div><div><snip></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><br>
What I do have an issue with-- is that collected information being shown
on the public internet to be gleefully scraped, not just for spam
purposes, but also identity theft etc.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Identity theft is one use case but it can be less delicate than that. What was bouncing through my head when I first arced up was the folks I've known with small online web fronts and abusive ex-partners, stuff like that. There is absolutely no legitimate reason for public open slather of people's personal details just because they register a domain name, whether you are labouring under the misapprehension that it somehow contributes to your goals of civil Internet use utopia or not. People who think otherwise are the type of people who should not have a voice on the matter, and are largely the reason the Privacy Act exists.</div><div> </div><div>G</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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is perpetuating the "nothing to hide" myth.
Privacy is not about being protected from any
particular form of harassment such as spam,
it's about the details of the registration
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I think it is when you're registering a
globally unique and *public* place holder /
identifier using a *public* resource.</div>
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Badly quoted / formatted response aside, Mark has it here.<br>
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Early in my career I worked heldpesk and 'abuse@' for a 'free' ISP.
The operations of that ISP were funded by interconnect revenues and
the bottom line was that if you could get online once (borrow a
dialup, or use a library etc), you could sign up for an internet
account that would work immediately, with no validation of the
details supplied as part of the sign-up process.<br>
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You can imagine how much abuse the service saw, when people realised
there was essentially no accountability for your actions when you
could be fully anonymised (at least, until the account was reviewed
for obvious anonymised user-data or reported for abusive behavior,
and the mighty whack-a-mole act began).<br>
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Having spent a lot of my career (then, and since) dealing with abuse
originating from parts of the Internet which don't care to be
accountable (through anonymised domain name registrations, ISP's too
large to be able to cope with the number of complaints they get so
they ignore them entirely, parts of the world where you know that a
complaint from a small nation in the south pacific aren't worth the
time it takes to read them, etc) I don't believe that anonymous
domain name registrations are necessary.<br>
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Mark.<br>
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