<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9075"><span></span></div><br> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8997"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8996"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8995" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8994"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8993"><span style="font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8992">From:</span></b> Mark Newton <newton@atdot.dotat.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "<ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, 26 June 2015, 18:56<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [AusNOG] BOHICA<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_8998"><br><div id="yiv8537052894"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9004"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9003" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ag.gov.au/telcosecurity" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9013">http://www.ag.gov.au/telcosecurity</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9005" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9005" dir="ltr" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">/ So NZ's version of this is what caused SDN research to be moved to AUS. </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9005" dir="ltr" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9005" dir="ltr"><font face="HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9040" class=""><a href="http://www.zdnet.com/article/surveillance-law-prompts-shift-for-google-sponsored-sdn-test-bed/" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1435311425058_9038">Surveillance law prompts shift for Google-sponsored SDN test-bed | ZDNet</a></font><br></div><div style="width:450px; 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