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    ING is worse, 4 digit pin floating keyboard.<br>
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    Regards,<br>
    Ross<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/06/2015 8:30 am, Ivan Jukic
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      <div dir="ltr">Granted it uses 6 digits, silly I know in the
        conventional sense. However, correct me if I am wrong. You need
        to enter the password using a floating virtual keyboard. So
        keystroke logging and brute force/dictionary attacks should not
        be an issue...<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 26 June 2015 at 08:23, Scott Howard
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              href="mailto:scott@doc.net.au" target="_blank">scott@doc.net.au</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">You forgot to mention :
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              <div>Westpac - maximum 6 digit passwords for Internet
                Banking. No special characters allowed.  No upper/lower
                case distinction. (But at least it's better than their 3
                digit phone PINs)</div>
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              <div>SSL is pretty much the least of Westpac's problem
                when it comes to Internet Banking security...</div>
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              <div>  Scott</div>
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                  <div class="h5">On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:14 PM,
                    Matthew Moyle-Croft <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au" target="_blank">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div>We've all been distracted by the large
                          scale crazy of site blocking, meta data
                          retention and whatever else the Australian
                          Government is doing.</div>
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                        <div>But need to focus on some basics:</div>
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                        <div>SHA-1 is on it's way out (see <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/09/gradually-sunsetting-sha-1.html"
                            target="_blank">http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014/09/gradually-sunsetting-sha-1.html</a>).<br>
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                        <div>Friend got a warning for his bank (not
                          Australian) from Chrome about bad SSL configs,
                          so I went and had a quick look at the big 4
                          banks in Australia to see what's up.</div>
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                        <div>Commbank - got it right - no SHA-1 for home
                          page or Internet Banking, no TLS 1.0</div>
                        <div>ANZ - no SSL on home page, TLS 1.0 and
                          SHA-1 for internet banking (oh boy!)</div>
                        <div>NAB -  no SSL on home page, TLS 1.2 and
                          SHA-1 for internet banking</div>
                        <div>Westpac - no SSL on home page, TLS 1.2 and
                          SHA-1 for internet banking</div>
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                        <div>Anyone here who can influence good internet
                          crypto for the 3 that aren't quite there?  </div>
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                            <div>MMC</div>
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