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No Noel, I think you've misinterpreted the AGD's response.<br>
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You are only obligated to retain data if you fall under 187A 3(b) of
the Act. That is, you are a carriage service provider, or an ISP.
The Minister can add other providers to be ratified within 40 days
by Parliament, but this has not yet occurred.<br>
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If you do fall under 187A 3(b) of the Act. Then you have to retain
data for all services you offer, this would include web hosting and
email.<br>
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If you only offer web hosting, you are not an ISP and do not have
data retention obligations.<br>
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Justin.<br>
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<p>So I dont repeat myself, cause I really f'in hate that, this
will be the last reply at least until I get past the 40 odd
still sitting in my inbox :) see my previous "it doesnt mater
who you are, if you provide Email, you must comply." because it
is treated separately from if your SP or not.</p>
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<p>On 10/06/2015 10:10, Joseph Goldman wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px
solid; margin: 0;">From reading those pages it seems to
indicated source, destination, time and type of the
communication. Perfect job for this appears to be netflow
data - netflow itself holds a lot more information that may
not be necessary but it seems to be the best way to pull
that information at a quick glance, no?</blockquote>
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<p>That is for voice, read it carefully. Yes for voice they
want to know from and to, but for internet, only who has
what IP at what time and their life story including payment
history and a total, I guess monthly, of that users used
quota, a one line per month total entry in a DB, which one
assumes is in your billing system already anyway, they
certainly do not want to know how many times you logged onto
twitter or youtube or if you ever visited
watchingthegrassgrow.com</p>
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What Noel said.<br>
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Note also that 'source' and 'destination' addresses or
identifies are relative to the service under consideration. If
you are working out your obligations for a VoIP service, then
source and destination are telephone numbers or SIP addresses.
Just as would appear in your SIP logs.<br>
If you are thinking about email, then source and destinatation
are email addresses. Now, if you also know IP address (which you
might do for an email source address, coming from one of your
own users) then you include that. For destination email its
highly unlikely you'll have any idea what the destination's IP
address will be, especially after its been relayed a few times -
so you don't need to include it if you don't know it.<br>
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For basic Internet Access service, then its essentially whats in
RADIUS logs. Date/time the connection came up, when it dropped,
the IP addresses you allocated to it (static or dynamic), and
account information for the account holder. Maybe traffic volume
bytecount for the session.<br>
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