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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>On the “X” series routers the licencing is not honour system it is enforced (In+out, I remember seeing a document on this but can’t for the life of me find it, but it’s basically half duplex) for traffic passing through the ESP. All other licences (broadband user licence etc) are honesty system. I don’t know if the non-X series actually inforce their ESP 5/10/20/40/100 capacity but its fair to say they will be running out of puff if you exceed that amount anyway. These are great boxes if you need CPU type functions like NAT or L2TP as they don’t need services cards to do this sort of function (like a Juniper MX or ALU 7750 does) but don’t try and use them to switch traffic or you will just waste money very quickly. I use them for CGNAT and BNG functions and they are great. For General Routing and switching Juniper MX and EX are my personal choice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr1000/install/guide/1001-x/asr1hig/asr1lic.html">http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/routers/asr1000/install/guide/1001-x/asr1hig/asr1lic.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ASR1002 ESP10 –<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>cr1-lab#show platform hardware throughput level <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>% Error: This show command is not available on this device type<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ASR1006 ESP40 -<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>r1-w#show platform hardware throughput level<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>% Error: This show command is only available on Ultra, ASR1001, ASR1001x and ASR1002.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It seems the non-X don’t support the throughput command so I would assume there is no enforcement just a CPU performance capability limit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Here’s a useful PowerPoint on the ASR from a few years ago. I’ve always assumed the 1002-x is an ESP-40 licence locked, and the 1001-x is an ESP-20, could well be completely wrong on that though. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55559023/91_04-05-11_ASR1k.pdf">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55559023/91_04-05-11_ASR1k.pdf</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nathan Le Nevez<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 27 April 2015 8:19 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> James Mcintosh; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASR 1k series throughput licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU>The value of "orig_max" below is the aggregate software shaper for all interfaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU>This is taken from an ASR1002:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU>Router#show pla ha qfp a infra bqs qu ou def int g0/0/0 hier det | sec Shaper<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> Index 1 (SID:0x260, Name: Shaper)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> Software Control Info:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> sid: 0x260, parent_sid: 0x30001<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> evfc_fc_id: 0xffff, fc_sid: 0x260<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> obj_id: 0xd, parent_obj_id: 0xc, debug_name: Shaper<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> num_entries (active): 4, total_children (act/inact): 4, num_children (max): 4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> presize_hint: 0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> sw_flags: 0x080203ca, sw_state: 0x00000801<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> orig_min : 0 , min: 2500000000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> min_qos : 0 , min_dflt: 2500000000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> orig_max : 0 , max: 2500000000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> max_qos : 0 , max_dflt: 2500000000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU>and on a CSR1000v with no bandwidth license (100kbps):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU>csrtemplate#show pla ha qfp a infra bqs qu ou def int g1 hier det | sec Shaper <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> Index 1 (SID:0x7f, Name: Shaper)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> PARQ Software Control Info:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> sid: 0x7f, parent_sid: 0x7e<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> evfc_fc_id: 0xffff, fc_sid: 0xfffff<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> obj_id: 0x1d, parent_obj_id: 0x1c, debug_name: Shaper<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> num_entries (active): 3, num_children (max): 3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> presize_hint: 0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> sw_flags: 0x0802008a, sw_state: 0x00000801<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> orig_min : 0 , min: 0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> min_qos : 0 , min_dflt: 100000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> orig_max : 0 , max: 100000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU> max_qos : 0 , max_dflt: 100000 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-AU>Nathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Mcintosh<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 27 April 2015 2:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASR 1k series throughput licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_4884"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Anyone? I thought there'd be a heap of people here on list with ASR's....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3773"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3770"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3769"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3768"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3772"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On Saturday, 25 April 2015, 10:34, James Mcintosh <<a href="mailto:james.mcintosh@rocketmail.com">james.mcintosh@rocketmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3767"><div id=yiv4981111685><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3766"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1430107314610_3765"><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Hey Noggers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Can any Cisco "gurus" help me out here. The Cisco ASR1K series has throughput licensing (yes I know it's honour-based). I have a couple of questions regarding this:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>1. How is the throughput measured? Is just the input or output rate on any of the interfaces?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>2. If throughput reaches your licensed level what happens? Does it shape your traffic to the licensed rate regardless that there's heaps of other resources like CPU and memory?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For example the ASR1001 can be licensed only up 5Gbps but can take a 10Gbps interface. What happens after you reach the maximum licensed throughput of 5Gbps? Will it shape all the traffic on the 10Gbps interface to 5Gbps?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yiv4981111685yui_3_16_0_1_1429921655523_2505"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>-James<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>