<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"><div>If you read Mark's message carefully he indicated NetApp and NFS. NFS does not support multi-pathing, you need to use link aggregation instead. You are correct when referring to ISCSI however.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Scott Howard" <scott@doc.net.au><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:27 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Kristoffer Sheather" <kris@cloudcentral.com.au><br />
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>></span> wrote:
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<div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">I'm not that familiar with vSphere as we don't use it for exactly those reasons (dear as po$ion). But couldn't you configure MLAG on the Arista then use a bonding mode other than LACP on the ESXi hosts?</span></div>
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<b>Sent</b>: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:03 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "<a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a>>, "Skeeve Stevens" <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@theispguy.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@theispguy.com</a>>, "Josh Tipping" <<a href="mailto:josh.tipping@icita.co" target="_blank">josh.tipping@icita.co</a><br />
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<b>Subject</b>: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Cheapest half decent 10Gbps switch (for iSCSI only)</span> </span>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 20 April 2015 12:54 PM<br />
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<b>Sent</b>: Monday, April 20, 2015 12:39 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Josh Tipping" <<a href="mailto:josh.tipping@icita.com" target="_blank">josh.tipping@icita.com</a>><br />
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 19 April 2015 12:48 PM<br />
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Cheapest half decent 10Gbps switch (for iSCSI only)</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question, so apologies in advance - but since most people here run high speed storage networks it is probably relevant.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Can I have some recommendations for low end, cost effective, 10Gbps switches (for iSCSI use)?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Only need around 8-10 ports per switch, and all the switches I'm looking at from the likes of Cisco and Juniper are around $20k-$30k a switch - seems pretty extreme really. I'm looking at deploying 2 x 10Gbps iSCSI switches for a client for a small VMware project, and am looking for suitable switches.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Looking for suggestions for a half decent switch to use here - doesn't have to be top of the line with heaps of features, just something very basic, as long as it's 10Gbps and has at least 8 ports.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Looking at the Netgear XS712T, these are around the $2k mark, which is in the ballpark of what I need. Looked at the Netgear XSM7224 and DELL N4032, but these are around the $5k mark per switch (but granted 24 ports with dual power supplies)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">Thanks</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px">James</span></p>
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